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#200894 11/20/11 01:46 PM
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America has the highest death rate for child by murder and neglect in the industrialized world.

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"In Washington, politicians are beginning to recognise what some now describe as a "national crisis".

A congressional hearing in July heard from experts in the field about what can be done to prevent deaths from child abuse. A national commission is being set up to coordinate a country-wide response.

Many believe home visits to new parents by qualified health professionals, preparing them for the difficulties of family life, are key to that strategy."

Just another waste of your taxpayer dollars. Let them die and reduce the surplus population. Besides, home visits by government agents sounds like socialism to me.

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Not to downplay a serious problem, but always necessary to put numbers into perspective.
US estimate per the article 2500.
Note the numbers below are in (000) thousands [Linked Image from i719.photobucket.com]

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Originally Posted by Hal Brown
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"Many believe home visits to new parents by qualified health professionals, preparing them for the difficulties of family life, are key to that strategy."

Just another waste of your taxpayer dollars. Let them die and reduce the surplus population. Besides, home visits by government agents sounds like socialism to me.
And if the "new parents" choose to refuse them entrance, what then?
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Originally Posted by issodhos
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"Many believe home visits to new parents by qualified health professionals, preparing them for the difficulties of family life, are key to that strategy."

Just another waste of your taxpayer dollars. Let them die and reduce the surplus population. Besides, home visits by government agents sounds like socialism to me.
And if the "new parents" choose to refuse them entrance, what then?
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Rilly... I mean, whatever happened to the old tried and true, "Throw the baby out with the bathwater". What are these people thinking? It would be a failure if it wasn't successful in even one instance!

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Originally Posted by Hal Brown
Just another waste of your taxpayer dollars. Let them die and reduce the surplus population. Besides, home visits by government agents sounds like socialism to me.
Many, many, m-a-n-y government agencies visited Jaycee Dugard's house and none ever found her - even after neighbor's reports of kids camping in the background.

Surplus population? We need to lob off about 3.5 billion of the 'surplus.' coffee

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"Many believe home visits to new parents by qualified health professionals, preparing them for the difficulties of family life, are key to that strategy."
Way, way, too late by then.

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How about planning ahead and forgoing spontaneous drunk/one-nightstand sex? I would even go as far to favor government intrusion of requiring "consenting adults" to be certified in child-rearing prior to procreation.

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So, Rick, what we need to do is legislate morality?

What a very republican notion.

Does this mean gays must also forego alcohol and one night stands or just "breeders"?

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Does this mean gays must also forego alcohol and one night stands or just "breeders"?
Gays don't add to the population accidentally thereby producing children for homes which are incapable of providing sufficient parental guidance.

Gays plan ahead to ensure that the child is will cared for, well provided for, well nurtured, well cultured, and well educated smile

That's just how we roll... Hmm

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Itstarted, the article is about child deaths caused by abuse and neglect.

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Originally Posted by california rick
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How about planning ahead and forgoing spontaneous drunk/one-nightstand sex? I would even go as far to favor government intrusion of requiring "consenting adults" to be certified in child-rearing prior to procreation.

That has been tried many times. In the last two hundred years, it's been tried by Turkey(towards the Armenians) Hitler(to Jews, Gypsies, Gays, Jehovah Witnesses, mentally retarded and mentally ill the disabled, etc. US government towards the Native Americans. Various tribes in Africa. And I'm sure that there are several other examples. And our world population has only increased. I suppose you're thinking that what we really need is a good plague or two.

Trying to legislate we breeders as to how we may have sex/procreate is tantamount to legislating that same-sex couples shouldn't have the right to marry. Something I've always been against. And yes, same-sex couples have to jump through more hoops to bear/adopt children, but you can't pick and choose which morals you're going to legislate. That would be unconstitutional. nono You know-that Life Liberty and pursuit of Happiness part. coffee wink grin

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Itstarted, the article is about child deaths caused by abuse and neglect.
Yes... Right! Though many of the deaths in the chart, were obviously caused by abuse (murder) and neglect (by families that had no choice due to exteme poverty)..
Interestingly, the disparity between the countries cited in your chart of industrialized nations(with some exceptions), closely follows the overall murder rate in those countries.
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A measure of what?...
National anger? Family values? Guns and the gun culture? Law enforcement? Drugs? Social safety net failures? Culture of insensitivity?
I am hard pressed to find fault with our over stressed and underfunded child protection programs. The media is alive with outrage, and stoke public anger, but as in so many other cases of great need, when it come to funding, social concerns usually end up at the bottom of the list. It's easier to fire the at-fault overworked social worker, than to enact meaningful reform.

At least that's the way I see it

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