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PEACE, ORDER AND GOOD GOVERNMENT[/b]

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In many Commonwealth jurisdictions, the phrase [b]"peace, order and good government" is an expression used in law to express the legitimate objects of legislative powers conferred by statute. The phrase appears in many Imperial Acts of Parliament and Letters Patent, most notably the constitutions of Canada, the Commonwealth of Australia and, formerly, New Zealand and South Africa. Contrast with "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"...a phrase found in the United States Declaration of Independence.
Hmmph....It seems to me that the childish self-absorption and anarchy which has devolved from American "life, liberty and (a supposed) pursuit of happiness" is harmful to both life and the pursuit of happiness -- and even, ultimately, to liberty.

I think this will distinguish Canadians from Americans far into the forseeable future. Canadians, especially educated Canadians, usually are rather disgusted by what they see of American behaviour -- especially social behaviour.

In Canada, PEACE, ORDER, GOOD GOVERNMENT, as an ideal, trumps the incoherent blither of the Declaration of Independence.

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Originally Posted by numan
...Canadians, especially educated Canadians, usually are rather disgusted by what they see of American behaviour -- especially social behaviour.
Indeed, Canadian "social behavior" stands in high regard:

Woman raped at Calgary cemetery

(Toronto) grandmother aghast child killer may walk free

Montreal ATM robbery

St. Michel man stabbed during armed robbery

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In Canada, PEACE, ORDER, GOOD GOVERNMENT, as an ideal, trumps the incoherent blither of the Declaration of Independence.
Isn't the term "good government" rather ambiguous? [Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]


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Originally Posted by california rick
Isn't the term "good government" rather ambiguous? [Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]

rick, please tell me you didn't think numan's post had anything to do with the non-existence of any criminal activity in Canada?
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Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is shabby rhetoric, something the framers were very good at. Today, marketing has taken its place in most instances.
Don't waste time looking for meaning, as there is none.
Since my exposure to Canada and Canadians is quite limited I won't opine with respect to the functioning of the state in that country.
Although, statistically, they do seem to be less trigger "happy" than we. wink


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rick, please tell me you didn't think numan's post had anything to do with the non-existence of any criminal activity in Canada?
I was simply highlighting the "social behavior" both countries have in common - crime - because, you know, they're "disgusted" with aspects of our "behavior"... smile

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...statistically, they do seem to be less trigger "happy" than we. wink

True, that. [Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]


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OTOH, "PEACE, ORDER, GOOD GOVERNMENT" could at any time be co-opted as a slogan for an aspiring fascist dictator.

IN any case, I doubt that very many people in the USA would disagree with those goals


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Originally Posted by Ardy
OTOH, "PEACE, ORDER, GOOD GOVERNMENT" could at any time be co-opted as a slogan for an aspiring fascist dictator.
You mean as the slogan "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" has been co-opted by the achieved fascist dictatorship of the one-percent Money-Lords of the USA ?

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IN any case, I doubt that very many people in the USA would disagree with those goals
Oh, Goody!! Then we can tear up the Declaration of Independence as a ghastly historic error and return to the status quo ante MDCCLXXVI !!! · · [Linked Image from yucata.de]

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Here are some more goodies for the flag wavers:

Nazi Germany
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer
(One people, one Reich, one Leader)

National Fascist Party (Italy)
a revolutionary militia placed at the service of the nation. It follows a policy based on three principles: order, discipline, hierarchy
credere, obdedire, combattere
(believe, obey, fight)

Imperial Japan (from 1868 to 1947)
"Hakku ichiu"
("Universal Brotherhood")
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("All Eight Corners of the World")

Algeria
By the people and for the people

Argentina
In Union and Liberty

Guess?
It is Austria's destiny to rule the world


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Ah!! The good old K.u.K. ! "Kaiserliches-und-Königliches Reich" !

A.E.I.O.U. !!

Alles Erdreich ist österreich untertan
"All the world is subject to Austria."

Austriae est imperare orbi universo
"It is Austria's destiny to rule the world"

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That would be them. ThumbsUp

The one I like best is Uhuru na Umoja (Tanzania) and from the Swahili meaning Freedom and Unity. But the reason I like it is because the word Uhuru has always really sounded like freedom to me. Not sure why.


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
That would be them. ThumbsUp

The one I like best is Uhuru na Umoja (Tanzania) and from the Swahili meaning Freedom and Unity. But the reason I like it is because the word Uhuru has always really sounded like freedom to me. Not sure why.

Must be where Gene Roddenberry got the name "Lt. Uhura" for Star Trek! grin


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