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Here's a time travel question:
You have the opportunity to go back in time. Which choice is the more important choice for you?
1. Kill Hitler before his rise to power
2. Educate voters about the 2000 FL butterfly ballot?
...and why?
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Rick
We know the implications of hitler living and the invasion of Iraq
We cannot know if the world would be better if these events had not happened
What would the world look like if Saddam remained in power who knows?
Perhaps if Hitler had not started WWII that war would happen eventually anyway perhaps it would have happened under better German leadership perhaps it would have happened after nuclear weapons have been developed. We simply cannot know these things
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
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I'll bite...
I go for the voter education. I love old Jeeps and they would never have been invented if it wasn't for that bastid Hitler and WWII.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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...I love old Jeeps and they would never have been invented if it wasn't for that bastid Hitler and WWII. I did not know that. 
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...I love old Jeeps and they would never have been invented if it wasn't for that bastid Hitler and WWII. I did not know that. In nineteen seventy and three, I went to the U.S. Naval Academy, by appointment of Senator Frank Church. In our caps was a plastic compartment that could hold two pictures - one maybe 2"x3", the other half that size. I had a picture of my 1947 Jeep in the big slot, and my girlfriend in the little one. I owe it all to Adolf.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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I thought Al Gore also invented time travel along with that internet thing? He must have screwed up or a bout of global warming fused his time machine.
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I thought Al Gore also invented time travel along with that internet thing? He must have screwed up or a bout of global warming fused his time machine. No, that was Dr. Who and the Tardis. 
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I thought Al Gore also invented time travel along with that internet thing? He must have screwed up or a bout of global warming fused his time machine. Oh, golly, keezie, are you a Wingnut wannabe? Did Al Gore invent the internet?
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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I know that this is an interesting thought experiment, but I was just thinking about scale and our perception of it. Last week 300 people were killed by an anti-aircraft missle, a horrendous tragedy. Yet, on September 11, 2001, nearly 10 times as many were killed. In Vietnam 68,000 Americans and many more thousands of Vietnamese died. Perhaps it is because of time and distance, but in WWII millions were killed. It is hard to fathom the scope of that destruction. Just a chance, however remote, would seem to make any risk worth the effort to prevent that.
On the other hand... the scale of that destruction required rethinking economic operations and leveled the playing field between the haves and have-nots.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Moderator Carpal Tunnel
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And, what if we could go back and prevent the Black Plague? Or, the epidemics among the indigenous populations of North America?
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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