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Probably won't need to fire a shot, though. In my experience, cowards run when they see that you are willing to fight back. First thought that comes to mind when I hear the morans talking gunz and revolution if they don't get their way is, "Who are they planning to shoot at?" The Bundy Bungle in a remote part of Oregon is Exhibit "A".
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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Did ya ever see "The Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight" or the "Incredible Army of Branca Leone"?
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
Lenny Bruce
"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
Dostoevsky
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Probably won't need to fire a shot, though. In my experience, cowards run when they see that you are willing to fight back. First thought that comes to mind when I hear the morans talking gunz and revolution if they don't get their way is, "Who are they planning to shoot at?" The Bundy Bungle in a remote part of Oregon is Exhibit "A". I'm not so sure, I have received threats of physical harm already from a wingnut who is in a group I meet with from time to time over my views this election season. Another who I have been friends with for some time won't even speak to me anymore. These folks are unhinged to say the least. I too am armed and trained but I'd hate to have to use deadly force against anyone.
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Oh, I didn't mean that they wouldn't start shooting!
My point is that their shooting would in no way advance overthrowing the government. That requires planning and organization, not to mention a vision for the future.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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There is visceral anger or there, but the problem is it is unfocused. It is roughly divided between those that want less government, and those that want better government. They could end up shooting at each other.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Republican politicians fall back in line behind Trump after defecting: It has truly been a surreal cycle to watch. Many Republican elected officials are personally outraged and ashamed by something their party’s nominee says or does. So they distance themselves. But as soon as they face a whiff of blowback from some in the party, they cave and fall back in line. Then they offer up excuses and rationalizations, twisting themselves into pretzels to justify voting for a guy who some will tell you privately is a danger to the Republic. It’s happened over and over again now, and it validates what Trump himself said during the primaries: Many politicians are indeed craven and interested mainly in maintaining power for themselves, principles be damned. WaPo
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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That requires planning and organization, not to mention a vision for the future can't use the preceding words as the NSA has too many tic tacs however your comment made me think of possibilities .... Gen Flynn is a nut case as are all of Mr Trumps advisors .... how many in the military and other associated departments would it take for the words i can not use to happen? these characters have a vision and it doesn't include you use your imagination for the how and consider that 30% to 50% of the country would probably support it. do any of these thugs have the cajones to attempt the words i can not use???? because at this point i think that is all that is lacking
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
America can survive bad policy, but not destruction of our Democratic institutions
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...decent social conservative... Isn't social conservative synonymous with racist, bigot, misogynistic, let's get back to the 1950s? 
Contrarian, extraordinaire
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Republican politicians fall back in line behind Trump after defecting: It has truly been a surreal cycle to watch. Many Republican elected officials are personally outraged and ashamed by something their party’s nominee says or does. So they distance themselves. But as soon as they face a whiff of blowback from some in the party, they cave and fall back in line. Then they offer up excuses and rationalizations, twisting themselves into pretzels to justify voting for a guy who some will tell you privately is a danger to the Republic. It’s happened over and over again now, and it validates what Trump himself said during the primaries: Many politicians are indeed craven and interested mainly in maintaining power for themselves, principles be damned. WaPo Those politicians clearly have no internal values, morals, or backbone. I'm happy to see them being exposed for the people they truly are. 
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Probably won't need to fire a shot, though. In my experience, cowards run when they see that you are willing to fight back. Isn't fighting old white people on hoover rounds like shooting fish in a barrel, as it were?
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