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I love the new term: Covidiocy. It is prevalent in certain places, especially red ones. The whole Michigan outbreak of it seems eerily reminiscent of the astro-turfy "TEA Party".

Yeah, just google Actemra and cytokine storm. This is actually pretty encouraging, since ICU docs and nurses are talking about the hopeless situation with ARDS patients, with no treatment available. And it doesn't even need any FDA approval, since Actemra is already approved as safe. Docs can prescribe drugs for "off label" use when they are effective. They just need to know about them.

Cuomo Pres Conference

Cuomo Press Conference on corona virus. From minute 23, when a reporter tells Cuomo Trump is watching, Cuomo precedes to tear Trump a new arsehole for all his dereliction of duty and criticisms of New York actions and requests based on CDC projections. Cuomo goes into dates and numbers, thanks Trump repeatedly for doing his job. ("What should I do, send a bouquet?") Talks about the constitutional power of governors to open their own states on their own timeline. Asks for state funding for testing and federal help in getting tests.

It's Cuomo finally getting tired of kissing Trump's butt to get help.

It's also Cuomo making it crystal clear to Trump that if New York and NYC fall, so falls the nation, because NYC is perhaps one of the biggest financial hubs in the world and certainly in the USA.

And Trump toying with the fate of the Big Apple may just be the final fatal mistake that finally turns his Republican support in Congress against him.

don't get delusional .... Republicans will not abandon Mr Trump .... he is the voice of {{{ THE BASE }}}

They will not risk blowback from THE BASE.

That's it in a nutshell right there. Most everything here is sheer speculation, but that right there is a hard, cold, fact.

trump's base is roughly 35%, mostly white supremist IMHO. I'll wager moderate republicans will hold their nose and vote for Joe just like conservative democrats did for trump in 16- they just couldn't pull the trigger for Hillary. I'm a Tennessean, heard too many repubs say as much...

Trump's base and the owners and operators of the Republican Party are two entirely different groups. The real owners find Trump and his base useful, or not so much if Trump tries to purposefully damage New York City and all the 1% who live or work there. If that was ever the case, Trump would find himself in an assassin's crosshairs immediately. That's always been the penalty for screwing with the 1%.

According to CNN exit polls 89% of democrats voted for Hillary, 88% of Republicans for Trump. That is right close to the historical average of 90% which Republicans and Democrats vote for their party's nominee regardless of who it is. The party faithful or the base of each party didn't cross over to the other party's nominee. At least no more than in presidential election.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

Trump won because of the swing voters, the independents. They went to Trump 46-42 over Hillary with 12% voting third party against both major party candidates. Independents really disliked both major party candidates and many refused to choose between them. Many independents or swing voters stayed home refusing to choose. This is shown as independents made up 40% of the electorate in Nov 2016, but only 31% of those who actually voted. 54% of all independents disliked and didn't want neither Trump nor Clinton to become the next president. In fact 25% of all Americans disliked both Trump and Clinton.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/pol...ans-dislike-presidential-candidates.aspx

To put this into context how much both major candidate were despised, there is the historical favorable/unfavorable's of all major party candidates going back to Eisenhower. Take a look and see who is at the bottom. This makes 2016 a most unique election as the people had to choose between two unwanted candidates. At least Barry Goldwater can rest in peace now as he no longer holds the record for the lowest favorable and highest unfavorable. Trump and Clinton has that distinctions now.

Highest to lowest favorable/unfavorable ratings of each major party presidential candidate.
Favorable/unfavorable
1956 Eisenhower 84/12%
1964 LBJ 81/13%
1976 Carter 81/16%
1960 JFK 80/14%
1960 Nixon 79/16%
1968 Nixon 79/22%
1976 Ford 79/20%
1972 Nixon 76/21%
1968 Humphrey 72/28%
1984 Reagan 70/30%
1980 Carter 68/32%
1984 Mondale 66/34%
1980 Reagan 64/31%
1992 Bill Clinton 64/33%
2008 Obama 62/35%
2012 Obama 62/37%
1956 Stevenson 61/31%
2004 G.W. Bush 61/39%
2008 McCain 60/35%
1992 G.H.W. Bush 59/40%
2000 G.W. Bush 58/38%
2004 Kerry 57/40%
1996 Bill Clinton 56/42%
1988 G.H.W. Bush 56/39%
2000 Gore 55/45%
2012 Romney 55/43%
1972 McGovern 55/41%
1996 Dole 54/45%
1988 Dukakis 50/45%
1964 Goldwater 43/47%
2016 Hillary Clinton 38/56%
2016 Donald Trump 36/60%

"alternate facts" meet reality:

Pastor Tony Spell, who leads Life Tabernacle Church in the suburbs of Baton Rouge, has been openly defying his state’s ban on large public gatherings, drawing hundreds to in-person worship services while insisting that “true Christians do not mind dying.” Well one of them did, and now a lawyer hired to represent Life Tabernacle Church in its fight to ignore Louisiana’s stay-at-home order has also fallen ill from the virus and has been hospitalized since Tuesday. This is the tip of the iceberg. Bet a lot more of his flock end up dead. Tony's problem is soon going to be, if they are all dead, who's going to give him money?