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Tat seems surprised: ... in this day and age that some still echo the hatdred and homophobia of Reagan.
What surprises me, and what prompted my recent conversion, is that such behavior is tolerated - but, for the sake of balance the management in its wisdom has decided that the balance gets a little thumb.- So. If I'm in for a dime, I'm in for a dollar!
The Senator is correct. Reagan did not make those guys do the nasty. And he came from a generation which did not discuss such perversions in public.
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The Senator is correct. Reagan did not make those guys do the nasty. And he came from a generation which did not discuss such perversions in public. ![[Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/ca_rickf/Smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif) ...as I have stated ad nauseum - only Irked can be Irked ![[Linked Image from i48.photobucket.com]](http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f228/ca_rickf/Smilies/icon_wink.gif) Having stated that... ...(again) as I have stated before, run (don't walk!) to your nearest Adult Movie store. There, you'll find a least one row of "Backdoor" DVDs - str8 performers - which tells us that everybody is "into" that scene - not just one group. If Mr. Reagan could not discuss "perversions" in public - he ought not have held an office that represents ALL Americans.
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yeehaa... rr's the place to be for cornophiles, baby! y'all rock!
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Simply amazing what happens when a little light is thown into the rats nest isn't it?
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I also find it interesting that Mr. Reagan's supporters never, ever use social indicators of Mr. Reagan doing a fantastic job - because there are none. This is not true. Haven't you heard the saying "The rich get richer. When the rich are not getting richer, they feel like they are on the way to the poor house.... very fragile creatures, the rich.
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
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Rick, coming from the old ACTUP mindset, I will absolutely not let anyone get away with letting Reagan off the hook for having killed thousands of AIDS victims.
And I do mean kill, not let die, not ignore, no, he murdered my friends. He should have been tried for his crimes. He will always go down in history for this heinous crime. Pres. Reagan did not murder a single one of your friends! They died from a disease that he did not have the ability to stop even if he had given the entire GNP of our country to AIDS research. Even with all of the research that has been done people are still dying from AIDS. So Reagan not putting money into AIDS research did not cause the death of anyone from AIDS. The claim that Reagan is responsible for people dying of AIDS is BS. No president can stop anyone from dying from any disease. Those make the claim that people died from AIDS because of Reagan's indifference and that I disagree with that claim will accuse me of being homophobic. That is another BS claim because those who make it do not know me or what my relationship with those in the homosexual community is. The claim of my being homophobic is based on the belief that since I do not believe the "offical" ACT-UP line about Reagan and AIDS I am homophobic. What small minded politically correct crap! The homophobic slam is used to intimidate people into believing the "official Gay Liberation" politically correct idea. Well I do not buy into any politically correct arguments so that slam does not phase me. You can call me homophobic all you want I could care less!
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Senator H, it seems you do not know when to leave bad enough alone. It was the following that caused the stir: When it was learned that the AIDS was and is spread primarily through sexual contact did the homosexual community urge people to abstain from sex? Or did the homosexual community prefer to continue to have multiple sexual partners? The spread of AIDS was something the homosexual community could have done a lot to prevent its spread but they have passed the blame to Pres. Reagan so that they don't have to take responsibility for their own behavior. The hatred they say they got from Pres. Reagan is actually the self hatred that due to a number of factors is more dangerous to the homosexual community then the disease of AIDS. Whenever one is angry with someone it is because they see something in others that they do not like in themselves. That, my friend, is what demonstrated an insensitivity and ignorance of the subject matter. Let me be specific to the arguments:"When it was learned that the AIDS was and is spread primarily through sexual contact did the homosexual community urge people to abstain from sex?" Well, yes, as a matter of fact - and to practice safer sex, provide condoms, and literature, although that effort was stymied by political ignoramuses who thought of it as "the gay disease." That same misunderstanding is directly reflected in your reflexive tirade: Even though, as I pointed out above, the majority of cases were not caused by homosexual sexual activity, that stigma still persists. Let me ask it another way: "When it was learned that the AIDS was and is spread primarily through sexual contact did the heterosexual community urge people to abstain from sex?" No, apparently they did not. You further the offensiveness of your assertion with the statement: "Or did the homosexual community prefer to continue to have multiple sexual partners?" Again, the slam is directly against only one population of AIDS victims, and is nothing short of "blaming the victim" which is not only insensitive, and offensive, but is based, again, upon a woeful ignorance of the topic. Especially in light of the concerted efforts to prevent the dissemination of "safer sex" information conducted by the government at the time. That has been documented as well. Finally, what the **** is this supposed to be other than an inappropriate slam?: they have passed the blame to Pres. Reagan so that they don't have to take responsibility for their own behavior. The hatred they say they got from Pres. Reagan is actually the self hatred that due to a number of factors is more dangerous to the homosexual community then the disease of AIDS. Whenever one is angry with someone it is because they see something in others that they do not like in themselves. I'm not sure how one can interpret that as other than saying that homosexuality is a perversion and they brought it on themselves. Frankly, I am not inviting a response. I think you have dug deep enough.
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This thread is now closed. It has run a course with no route remaining but the absolutely negative one which has resulted.
As a reminder, this entire forum - Reader Rant - is meant to exist in a civil manner, one where attacks on individuals or groups is forbidden.
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