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RB1 - I may have missed it, but I don't remember gun control being pushed on this thread. There have been suggestions that more guns are probably not the best answer -- but that's not the same as suggesting gun control.

And, of course, you have links to sources that support your claims here?

Unless a main artery or a vital organ is destroyed by a knife thrust and twist, one dies from stabs as a result of "bleeding out". Knife attacks typically are carried out by untrained individuals and thus can result in numerous but non-lethal cuts. This is why victims of multiple stabbings can often survive if the bleeding can be quickly staunched. That is why if it took a bullet to stop the attack -- even after several stabs -- it would be justified by being able to then render aid (perhaps life-saving aid) to the fellow who was attacked. After all, to refer back to a previously asked question in another thread, are we not our brother's keeper?;-)
Yours,
Issodhos

I have read of cops killing unarmed individuals by mistake, often with a fusillade of shots by multiple officers, and killing bystanders by mistake. I have not read of any concealed carry person doing so, nor have I read of one killing an innocent bystander when a bullet managed to pass through one body and into another. But, if you have stats on that for review, I would enjoy reading them. Until then, I'll pass on your super-cop.:-)



Yeah. The 130 pound victim was tickled to death -- er -- well, so to speak.:-)


Better yet, maybe they should also be trained in on-the-spot counselling so the victim -- you know -- the goblin with the knife could get immediate help and understanding. Heh heh heh.:-)
Yours in wonderment,
Issodhos

Quite true, Mellowicious. It is about a gang of good guys and gals running from a goblin engaged in killing an innocent, weaker individual. It is about the inculcation of the idea that citizens should rely not on each other but on the state to protect each other from nut-cases and criminal vermin.
Yours,
Issodhos
p.s. By the way, it would have only taken one gun -- or the crowbar -- or multiple hands.:-)

Golly. I didn't see anyone saying the state should be involved, either.

You know, sometimes an ugly thing happens that doesn't have any great meaning in the good or ill of society -- it's just a bad thing, that happened. It's not an argument for or against the 2nd Amendment (especially since it didn't happen in the US!), and it doesn't have to be a condemnation of everyone in the vicinity. It's an isolated incident.

But the people reported a "blood-curdling scream"...so how could the person be dead? Dead people don't scream-except in horror movies. And even if the victim was dead, the perp was not disarmed and still could have turned on someone else. While I might not want to shoot a gun off in close quarters, a tire iron/crow bar would have worked.

Mellowicious:Your right this did not happen in the US it happened in Canada.And the last time I read there is no 2nd amendment in Canada.If this happened in the US maybe someone on the bus would have had a Smith and Wesson 44Mag And scattered that scumbags brains all over the damn bus.Im just sayin...

Yes, that's what I meant, RBI - brining Yank gun issues into the discussions seems rather futile as our laws wouldn't affect things anyway.

I am surprised that there is so much vehemence about this single murder in another country; there is another active thread right now about the murder of an American soldier, and I don't think the word "scumbag" has been used there at all.

I suspect that you're right.

Joe