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If the ACLU messageboard were up I would post this letter as I had posted other more detailed ones before they discontinued them. The ACLU's Forums provided an opportunity for people- whistleblowers, victims of government abuse, critics, and others- to communicate privately as these individuals actually were experiencing the government abuse of power that concerns some people. Big difference between philosophical theory and actual experience.

Joe

Joe

As a matter of fact, I owe a thank you to the ACLU for their Forums. At one point, the indefinite "they" had put a redirect on this blog. I asked other ACLU Forum posters if they were able to access it. They weren't. One of the posters even told me what was being done and how they did it. An lo and behold! The next day the redirect was removed. However, I did get a warning from someone in the ACLU threatening to ban me from the boards because of "spamming." I though that the threat was crap and I doubted that it was even from the ACLU, although the email appeared to originate from them. So I checked with the ACLU Forums Moderator. I told the moderator that I had posted my access question on 4 or 5 separate but related threads. The moderator told me that I would have had to post the same question to at least 20 threads before they'd even look at it as possible spamming. So I don't know who actually sent the email warning, but posting my question apparently pissed someone off.

Joe

Support the ACLU! Help them get the ACLU Forums back up, which had 25k registered members when it went down about a week or two before the NSA story broke and hasn't been back up since. The Forums provided an opportunity for people subject to the abuse that I describe on this messageboard in "Who's Watching Big Brother?" thread to network. I can assure you that my story isn't unique, and I haven't even mentioned the military spying on civilians- don't want to seem like a kook. Incidentally, the police have had access-informally and off the books- to those spy satellites that you're now hearing about for quite some time.

Realize that your contributions will help the ACLU to help people subject to government spying abuse where they didn't have the resources to do so before. For example, although I requested the ACLU's help- even just in an advisory capacity- regarding government spying prior to, during, and following the FDLE drug sting described in "Who's Watching Big Brother?," I never received any reply to my request, until finally someone who described themselves as a paralegal sent me a brief email saying, no. That's how busy they are and limited their resources. However, the ACLU proactively attempted to represent my neighbors in their FDLE drug sting case. As a matter of fact, my neighbor described them as badgering them. My neighbors, however, chose to remain with their own defense attorney (a wise decision).

So if you have a few extra bucks this holiday season, send them to the ACLU, and help them be the champions and defenders of the US Constitution that they claim to be.

Joe

The ACLU are not, if they ever were, "champions and defenders of the U.S. Constitution". Invest your money elsewhere folks; where it won't be used against you part of the time.

clarkb,

But, but, but, but...they say that they are! And MSM annointed them as such. Surely, they are doing much good- they got rid of the Constitional killing Patriot Acts and other fascist legislation that have killed the Bill of Rights, didn't they? The neo-con talking heads hate them, so they must be effective, right?

Joe

Upon further consideration, split your contribution between the NRA and ACLU. Afterall, the NRA is to the "Right" what the ACLU is to the "Left."

Joe

Not quite. One is an absolute single issue unit, bent so far right that anything contrary to its thoughts, words or deeds are deemed absolutely evil & unAmerican, while the other is willing to represent anything & everything constitutional, including defending the...uh...citizens from that other end.

Hey, whatever makes you happy, then believe it! We're a free country, right?

Joe