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The real 'joke' is Levi Johnson. Once the Palins were done with him at the National Convention, and the baby was born, they kicked him to the curb.


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This just goes to prove just how ugly and mean these kind of jokes are-as are the people that think it's OK.


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Originally Posted by california rick
...and why is NOW upset. I didn't realize that Sarah Palin embodied NOW standards and practices and was their poster woman. Hmm

Because unlike some, NOW has some ethics.


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Originally Posted by Scoutgal
This just goes to prove just how ugly and mean these kind of jokes are-as are the people that think it's OK.
Once again, Sarah Palin participated in a Saturday Night Live skit in which it was suggested that Todd Palin slept with his daughters. Bristol was not 18 then.

Why did Sarah give that a pass? Political expediency, perhaps?

Political expediency now to keep her name in the limelight? I dare say...Yes to all of the above.

Superficial political hack - and not very good at it - more like amateur hour political hack.

Where was NOWs outrage then? Where were the Ranters outrage then? I'm sure I posted that link as I posted all of Sarah Palin SNL back then.

SNL clip featuring Sarah Palin

Selective outrage. Gotta love it.


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Originally Posted by Scoutgal

This just goes to prove just how ugly and mean these kind of jokes are-as are the people that think it's OK.

"WHEN" is "IT" "OK"? [or "NOT"?]

"I" "found" "THIS"

"Much More" Offensive.


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Originally Posted by mama
Originally Posted by Scoutgal

This just goes to prove just how ugly and mean these kind of jokes are-as are the people that think it's OK.

"WHEN" is "IT" "OK"? [or "NOT"?]

"I" "found" "THIS"

"Much More" Offensive.

It's offensive-just like the Macaca remark by George Allen-but public figures and spouses take their chances. As mellowicious said, children cannot help who their parents are. Unethical and unacceptable.


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NEW YORK -- Bristol Palin, arguably the nation's best-known unwed teen mother, embarked on a media tour Wednesday to argue that abstinence is a realistic way for teens to avoid unwanted pregnancy -- a view not shared by the father of her infant son.
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Palin began the day with appearances on ABC's "Good Morning America" and NBC's "Today," where she said she wished she'd waited to have sex.

"Regardless of what I did personally, I just think that abstinence is the only way you can effectively, 100 percent foolproof way you can prevent pregnancy," she said.
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Palin's promotion of abstinence was a turnaround from what she told Fox News in February. Then, she said that teens should avoid sex, but abstinence is "not realistic at all."

Beth Fouhy-AP, "Bristol Palin promotes abstinence in Big Apple tour", Anchorage Daily News, May 7th, 2009
Bristol is eighteen. She is now promoting herself as a spokesperson for abstinence only contraception. She has chosen to make herself a public person. She is fair game.


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NOW objected because "The sexualization of girls and women in the media is reaching new lows these days -- it is exploitative and has a negative effect on how all women and girls are perceived and how they view themselves."

Once again - I don't think anybody really cares what's said about Sarah Palin, except Sarah Palin. And the issue is about Bristol only in retrospect. We're talking about sexual jokes about a 14-year-old girl.

As for the stuff on the list Mama provided - yes, that all reeked as well. (And in fact the NOW piece references that horrible reference to Chelsea.)

Some of those I didn't remark on because I didn't know about them. So sue me. Sarah Palin is old news. Letterman took a cheap shot and it backfired. He apologized. Enough.

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Bristol is eighteen. She is now promoting herself as a spokesperson for abstinence only contraception. She has chosen to make herself a public person. She is fair game.

A Knight, she never really chose to make herself a public person. It was thrust on her. She's just a kid. A very unfortunate kid. Not a particularly smart kid. Certainly not very worldly.
Because the media glommed onto her story and granted her notoriety, she was asked to appear on television, she was asked questions and she answered as she was taught.
Just because she's old enough now to be legally taken advantage of does not, in my mind, maker her Fair Game to be publicly smeared because of her views and opinions.
This aside, Letterman's joke was aimed directly at a 14 year old because he didn't know which daughter attended a ballgame with her Mom. Are all the children of Sarah Palin doomed to have sexist jokes made about them from now on? are they all fair game because their family doesn't meet your approval or your particular social views?
I don't believe children are Fair Game in any shooting match, even young Levi. Who has been pronounced a joke by one of the high and mighty among us. He's just a redneck kid who did what redneck kids do. Who knows, without all the left wing smears and ridiculous publicity forced on them by the Right those two kids might be happily married right now and on the way to making more little republicans. That's something else redneck kids do, they do what they think is right.


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Bristol is eighteen. She is now promoting herself as a spokesperson for abstinence only contraception. She has chosen to make herself a public person. She is fair game.

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A Knight, she never really chose to make herself a public person.
Excuse me, I'm not seeing a gun pointed to her head as she makes her public appearances. She's choosing to make public appearances. She's choosing to be a public figure.

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