Capitol Hill Blue Forums Misc. Topics History Roundtable Did Britain Wreck the World?

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I don't see a lot of difference between the Nazis and the British ruling classes, except that English tyranny lasted longer and was more wide-spread than the German variety.

I have read the forgery called the Protocols of Zion, and thought them ridiculous as applied to the Jews. But as a description of the English vampire ruling classes, it fit them down to a tee! A people obsessed with power, bent on dominating the world, using the power of money, intrigue and manipulation to crush their opponents and force their will on others, oppressing and exploiting people all over the world in order to shave a little profit off the last farthing! A ruling class cold and cunning and heartless, mean and vicious! This is all patent and clear, revealed in any history book you care to pick up. They even boast about it! Like the American ruling class, their zealous imitators, they treated their own people as badly as they treated others, and this was a practice long established in English society. They were mean and callous to a degree almost unbelievable in any other Germanic society.

During the Second World War, under rationing, the average Englishman was better fed than he had ever been in history! I knew a very nice lady who managed to crawl out of the rubble of Berlin alive. She said that when the British came into the city, the English officers were what she expected: tall, healthy, well-mannered gentlemen. But she was shocked by the ordinary soldiers. They were short to the point of dwarfishness: deformed and unhealthy. Such was the result of the malnutrition which they had experienced all their lives, so that their rulers would have a little more money for their luxuries!

As bad as the British ruling class was, the American vampires of the Military-Industrial Conspiracy are ten times worse. Many of the British genocides were due less to planning than to neglect and incompetence. But the sub-human creatures who rule America plan their crimes with the meticulousness of a Heydrich or an Eichmann. What looks like stupidity and incompetence is usually a screen to conceal the most efficient methods for achieving the maximum degree of looting.

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Q.Did Britain Wreck the World?
A.Yes.

Well, Americans certainly paid the price for their system of slavery in the apocalypse of the Civil War and the subsequent soul-destroying racism and crippling of the South.

They will also pay the karmic price for the past fifty-odd years of war crimes and evil exploitations around the world. In fact, the karmic pay-back has already begun.

Curiously, the British haven't (as yet) suffered nearly as much karmic pay-back for their crimes as you might expect. Perhaps it is because they had enough sense to throw in their hand and get out of the Empire Biz when it was clear that the show was over.

Americans will never have as much good sense as the British, though. So expect a rough ride downhill.

I think that the Ireland/Northern Ireland/Scotland thing contradicts that theory. Not to mention Wales and a few Caribbean islands. And the British Queen still reigns over Canada, Australia and New Zealand-even if as just a figurehead.

Maybe we Americans picked up our bad neighbor habits from (gasp) Europeans.

No, numan is making my point: all of us are harmed when people are ruled by violence. Nationality doesn't matter, in the long run - as it often doesn't matter in the short run, if we could only see it that way.

It is one of the few areas in which we seem to have out-done our mentors.

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Absolutely not. Whatever the faults of the imperial Brits, they gave as much or more than they took, introducing roads, hospitals, schools and the rule of law around the world.

And it's not as if they were sending stormtroopers to roust innocents in Eden; for the most part the regions that are plagued with ethnic conflict today were like that before the British ever got there, and in many places the Empire managed to at least keep a lid on it for a century or two.

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Oh, dear, oh dear! Your first paragraph might have been taken straight out of a British propaganda movie of the 1930's or 40's!

However, there is more than a little truth in your second paragraph. I think that if direct colonial administrations had hung on in Africa into our own times, Africa and its peoples would be in much better shape than they are today.

The only people in Africa who have benefited by "freedom" are a bunch of tin-pot native despots who have bled their peoples dry --- ably helped mainly by the USA, but also by the neo-colonialism of European financial interests.

Anyway, the British did not wreck the world --- they just tore apart human cultures and civilizations. Being the main actor in wrecking the world is reserved to the United States as its historic "glory" through its ecologically-unfriendly activities.

I do not have an opinion on the issue.

The question cannot be conclusively answered since we cannot know what might have happened without British involvement. It is clear that the British did not set out to create havoc. On the other hand, their over riding motivation was to benefit themselves.... not to spread goodness and light though out the world