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In its notice to students, UA cited a travel alert issued by the U.S. Department of State in October warning travelers that crime rates have increased sharply in Tijuana, Juarez and Nogales - all Mexican cities that have experienced public shootouts during the daytime in shopping centers and other public places. The department warned that criminals have followed and harassed Americans driving in border areas. Arizona Central.comIsn't having a narco-state on our southern border a more serious of an issue to the United States than the Taliban hiding out in caves in Pakistan? Shouldn't our Commander-in-Chief address this very serious issue taking place in Mexico?
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In its notice to students, UA cited a travel alert issued by the U.S. Department of State in October warning travelers that crime rates have increased sharply in Tijuana, Juarez and Nogales - all Mexican cities that have experienced public shootouts during the daytime in shopping centers and other public places. The department warned that criminals have followed and harassed Americans driving in border areas. Arizona Central.comIsn't having a narco-state on our southern border a more serious of an issue to the United States than the Taliban hiding out in caves in Pakistan? Shouldn't our Commander-in-Chief address this very serious issue taking place in Mexico? Apparently the mayor of Juarez has taken the State Department's warning, rick. Course, all one has to do is remember to parrot, "It's America's fault" and one's membership in Multiculti-Land will be safe.;-) Yours, Issodhos
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This is serious stuff. Why isn't the United States government addressing this? These narco troubles in Mexico makes the illegal alien border crossings look like child's play. Eventually, if nothing is done, these narco troubles will come here. As the once Commander-in-Chief GW Bush stated: We'll fight them there - so we don't have to fight them here. Amen to that! 
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Rick, are you suggesting that we invade and occupy Mexico like we did Iraq? Are you suggesting that GWB's policy was the correct one and one that we should carry out on our neighbors?
I would suggest that the narco troubles ARE here. The United States is the primary market for these drugs. And the United States is where the narco-lords are getting their ammo.
I can't provide documentation at this moment, but will provide it later.
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This is serious stuff. Why isn't the United States government addressing this? These narco troubles in Mexico makes the illegal alien border crossings look like child's play. Eventually, if nothing is done, these narco troubles will come here. As the once Commander-in-Chief GW Bush stated: We'll fight them there - so we don't have to fight them here. Amen to that! Narco troubles are already here, rick. A suspected gang member accused of killing a father and two sons escaped prosecution in a weapons case earlier this year when the San Francisco district attorney's office concluded it didn't have enough evidence to connect him to a gun that a passenger in his car was carrying, authorities said Thursday.
Edwin Ramos, 21, of El Sobrante, who police say is a member of the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) street gang, was formally charged late Thursday with three counts of murder in the shooting deaths Sunday of Tony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16. He is being held without bail.
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Ramos was also booked on felony weapons charges and as well as a separate count of being in a criminal street gang. Police cited "numerous documented contacts" that officers had with Ramos and Lopez, and said both were "active members of the MS-13 street gang."
The gang, started in Southern California, has ties to El Salvador and engages in drug dealing, weapons trafficking and extortion, authorities say. Ramos is a native of El Salvador who is in this country as a legal resident, O'Sullivan said.
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Lopez, who was initially charged by San Francisco prosecutors, was indicted in May on federal charges of being an illegal immigrant from Guatemala in possession of a firearm stemming from the March 30 incident. The case is still pending.
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Ballistics tests were also conducted on the weapon, but those results were not available before Ramos was freed. The tests showed that the gun had been used the day before Ramos and Lopez were arrested to kill two men, Philip Ng, 24, of San Francisco, and Ernad Joldic, 21, of Daly City, police said. They may not be capping cops and pols yet, but picnicing families are apparently okay. The killings happened when Tony Bologna blocked a car making a left turn in the Excelsior district Sunday afternoon while he was driving home from a family picnic. The killer opened fire after Bologna backed up to let the other car past, authorities say. Ramos may also be an illegal alien (seems to be some contradictory reports on that). Judicial Watch, the public interest organization that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has obtained San Francisco Police Department (SFPD) records concerning the arrest of illegal alien murder suspect Edwin Ramos. Ramos is currently charged with the June 22, 2008, triple murder of Tony Bologna and his sons Michael and Matthew in San Francisco's Excelsior District.
The SFPD records, obtained by Judicial Watch pursuant to the provisions of the California Public Records Act, identify Ramos, "based on . . . numerous documented contacts" as being an active member of the MS-13 street gang. The records, which document that he is not a U.S. citizen, also show Ramos's previous March 30, 2008, arrest related to weapons and gang charges. San Francisco prosecutors declined to charge Ramos. He was released on April 2, 2008.
Because the Bologna family slayings (SFPD Incident Report No.: 080652433) is still considered an open investigation, Ramos's records related to that crime were not produced to Judicial Watch. Likewise, Ramos's juvenile criminal record remains sealed, although reports in the San Francisco Chronicle revealed that Ramos is an illegal alien who was found to have committed two (2) felonies at the age of 17 - a gang-related assault and an attempted robbery of a pregnant woman. Yours, Issodhos
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Rick, are you suggesting that we invade and occupy Mexico like we did Iraq? I'm suggesting that the Mexican government "invite" the United States in to help rid Mexico of these narco cop-killing, politician-killing, parasites once and for all - like the good neighbor that we are. I think the U.S. should take the narco fight there, instead of fighting them here.
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Yes Issy, there is ample evidence that "they" are already here.
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Perhaps this is what you have in mind, Rick. Please understand that Mexico would not be undergoing these horrible drug wars if Americans did not buy the drugs. And please understand that the weapons the drug cartels are using -- grenades, automatic weapons, etc -- are being purchased in the United States. EmmaG
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Reducing the profit motive will have a corresponding effect on both the corruption and violence.
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I said I would come back with some documentation that the weapons used in Mexico by drug dealers against each other as well as innocent people are being bought from gun shops in the United States. Here are three. here here another one
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