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- Here is where we were; here is where we are now. link-
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Hey Cousin It, I bet that 7500 prediction you made looks pretty good about now.
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- Here is the article that kicked off this thread back in August: VISUALIZE THE DOW AT 6,000-
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- IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THE PROJECTION OF THE DOW AT 6,000 WAS WILDLY OPTIMISTIC Banks Trigger Major Sell-OffU.S. stock indexes fell to their lowest levels in more than 12 years as one of the world's most prominent banks and an icon of American manufacturing traded as penny stocks....
Not even after five consecutive declines did traders want to own stocks overnight, said Joseph Saluzzi, co-founder of Themis Trading. "Nobody wants to get in the way as the freight train comes down the embankment," he said.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 281.40 points, or 4.09%, to 6594.44, its lowest close since April 1997. The Nasdaq Composite fell 54.15, or 4.00%, to 1299.59. The broad Standard & Poor's 500 index shed 30.32, or 4.25%, to 682.55, 56% below its bull-market peak in October 2007. That's the biggest drop for the market since the 1930s.
One emblem of that decline: Citigroup fell 11 cents, or 9.7%, to 1.02 after dipping below $1 for the first time ever earlier in the session. In May 2007, Citi was the biggest bank in the U.S. by market capitalization and traded for more than $55. Since then, the collapse of the mortgage securitization business and the slide in value of other assets has necessitated the rescue of Citigroup and other financial institutions, raising the specter of nationalization.
"If you had told me in the summer of 2007 that [Citi] would dip below $1, I would have said 'you're crazy'," said Saluzzi. "They have so many liabilities, so much bad stuff, they wouldn't even be trading if they weren't being supported by the government.
"The banks are a disaster."
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As in the 1930s, nothing seems to stop a contagion of confidence crises from spreading from one part of the financial sector to the next.
"It's just a never ending spiral," said Lorenzo Di Mattia, manager of hedge fund Sibilla Global Fund.
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When ya can buy a share of Citi or GM for less than the cost of accessing your own money in an ATM... then all bets are off. FYI, I have built a little portfolio of some of the stocks in the news lately... Here is a screenshot of the portfolio as of March 5, 2009. March 5 Portfolio When you read the spreadsheet, the purchase price is the highest price the stock traded at in the past year. Each stock is a single share. As the spirit moves, I'll update periodically... though it's hard to believe that it will get much worse.
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Same day... March 5... For those who follow the markets... read this: The Volatility of Volatility This whole market thing is out of control... ie. the VIX Almost every Wall Street "Charter" has been wrong... Your local financial advisor is either in the Bahamas, the Drunk Tank, or curled up in the fetal position in an institution... Breaking new ground!!!
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AIG is basically owned by the Government now. How about this? Banks sue AIG
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As I read it, cousin it, the banks are being named as co-defendants. The law firm is seeking individuals who lost more than $100,000 as plaintiffs.
Steve Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love, to respect and be kind to one another, so that we may grow with peace in mind. (Native American prayer)
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You are correct Steve... and I did misread the article as written, however, the banks ARE suing AIG. Here's a plain talk discussion about how AIG got to where it is today. Why Buffet was Correct
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