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But we need to have a basis of comparison in order to draw a conclusion as to cause and effect - for example, the comparative rate of violent crime on college campuses where guns are prohibited versus college campuses where guns are not prohibited.

The current goal of anti-gunowner organizations is to put more laws on the books restricting the right to the private ownership and use of firearms.;-)
Yours,
Issodhos

Which anti-gunowner organizations are you referring to?

American Bar Association's Coordinating Committee on Gun Violence

American Hunters and Shooters Association - Supports gun safety proposals

American Jewish Congress

Americans for Gun Safety –

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Ammunition Accountabililty –

Archive of Tim Lambert's Postings on Gun Control –


BB Guns - FAQs and articles mainly concerned with the dangers of BB guns.


Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence –


Brandon's Arms - News and opinion regarding an effort to dismantle Bryco Arms.
A Case for Gun Control - Short essay justifying the need for gun control.


Ceasefire Maryland - Statewide, non-profit organization aiming for a reduction of violence through education and handgun controls.


Ceasefire, Oregon - Building safe and healthy communities free from gun violence in Oregon.


Ceasefire, Washington - State-wide, grass-roots organization dedicated to ending gun violence.

Coalition to Stop Gun Violence/Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence

Common Sense About Kids and Guns –

Connecticut Against Gun Violence –

Firearms Law Center - Federal, state and local firearms law summaries, Second Amendment federal case law summaries, and updates on promising new regulatory strategies nationwide.


Freedom States Alliance - Organization, funded by the Joyce Foundation, to reduce gun violence.



Gun Guys - News and gun culture satire.


Gunfree - Home of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, and the Educational Fund to End Handgun Violence.


GunFreeKids.org –

Hoosiers Concerned About Gun Violence - Online newsletter.


Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence - "Works to reduce death and injury caused by the easy accessibility of firearms in our society."

Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence

Legal Community Against Violence –

Maine Citizens Against Handgun Violence –

Mayors Against Illegal Guns –

Mothers Against Guns - Committed to ending gun violence in our communities, and our nation by continuing to raise public awareness of the effect gun violence has on our lives.



New Yorkers Against Gun Violence –

North Carolinians Against Gun Violence –

Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence –


Protest Easy Guns - Gun fact videos, list of protest locations, and tips on how to organize your own protest.


Sane Guns - Provides statistics, news, commentary, and historical information and analysis.
South Texas Million Moms - Promotes adoption of gun laws, and provides support for victims and survivors of gun trauma.

States United to Prevent Gun Violence - State directory of gun violence prevention groups and members only area.


Stop Our Shootings - A survivor's story about the accidental shooting of 12 year old

Texans for Gun Safety –

The Truth About Gun Control and the Second Amendment - A brief and narrow, myth versus fact presentation of the gun control debate.

Violence Policy Center - A national educational foundation working to enhance gun control in America.

Violence Prevention Research Project –

Virginia Center for Public Safety -

It depends on the business and the owner. We can't know for certain and that alone is a deterrent. The fact remains that unless the owner has a sign saying that the owner and employees are not armed they may in fact be armed.



Au contraire, I would submit that many people intent on robbery and mayhem will in fact pick their target with a number of factors in mind. A primary factor is the ease with which the bad guys can accomplish their objective. In most cases I would suggest that the criminals pick the softer targets. "Protected by Smith & Wesson" on the door of a business would give bad guys pause, no? They'd perhaps look for a target less threatening. I'm fairly certain they'd be more likely to choose the business with "The owners and employees within are unarmed" sign.

People who want to do harm and rob other people graze among what they perceive to be the most vulnerable. It's why you never see someone intent on a massacre walking into a police station with the idea of taking out dozens of people. Suicidal killers with massacre on their minds just aren't that feckin crazy.



Sorry, I wasn't clear. My point is that if the owner of an establishment has no problem with a person entering his establishment with guns - by not posting a NO GUNS ALLOWED sign - then you must assume that at any given time someone in the business (the owner, employees, clients or customers) is carrying a concealed weapon if they don't open carry, which you see more of here than you would back east.



Point taken, and I believe Isso answered it. I would say, however, that given the gift of hindsight those who were present at Virginia Tech during the rampage would liked to have been armed on that horrible day.

Perhaps it signifies the relationship between reliance on violence and the catastrophic breakdown of civilization.

Iss
Thx for the link. I went there looking for anti gun owner organizations.... and found the following


I could be wrong, but they seem not at all anti gun owner.

Actually, they seem to be mostly concerned about things like gun violence, etc.

Probably would not be much of a sampling, because, if memory serves, it has been reported that the only two colleges that allow handguns (or is it firearms in general?) on campus are Blue Ridge Community College in Virginia and Brigham Young University in Utah.

Given the choice I'd love to live in a firearm free world and I'd settle for a firearm free country.

It depends on the business and the owner. We can't know for certain and that alone is a deterrent. The fact remains that unless the owner has a sign saying that the owner and employees are not armed they may in fact be armed.

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"Protected by Smith & Wesson" on the door of a business would give bad guys pause, no? They'd perhaps look for a target less threatening. I'm fairly certain they'd be more likely to choose the business with "The owners and employees within are unarmed" sign.

Wow, no kidding! Hmm. Well then, college campuses would make for a great example of what happens to violent crime when guns are banned, wouldn't they? Shall we compare the incidence of violent crime on college campuses to the incidence of violent crime among the general urban populations?

Iss
Thx for the link. I went there looking for anti gun owner organizations.... and found the following