Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Guns When Gun Control Freaks Go Wild:-)

Yes, I agree, those statistics would be interesting.

A couple of other interesting statistics might be....

How large a percentage of people who are killed actually owned guns and for what ever reason could not prevent their own death. As for example, lots of gang members own guns... and yet they are also often shot and killed.

Of those people who were killed, and did not have guns.... which percent of those people actually expressed a desire to own a gun in order to protect themselves... which desire was thwarted by gun laws.

Another interesting and probably unavailable statistic would be how many lives have been saved because people who were very angry did not have immediate access to a gun. After all, if recent events have proved anything, they have proved that people who get extremely angry and who have access to guns sometimes use those guns in a state of emotion.


Another interesting statistic would be how many gun related casualties occur in the context of an emotional outburst.

Wow!

As Mickey pointed out, give everyone guns and they just might use them. Picture what could happen if someone shoots into a crowd of gun-carriers.

What about women who are raped at gunpoint?

Or date rape? Even if she has a gun, it doesn't mean the weapon's accessible. And to wear a concealed weapon on a date just seems silly. (Pepper spray or mace maybe...)

A rapist won't say, "Hello, I'm here to rape you. Let me give you a minute to get your gun out." I'm guessing most women are immobilized before they even know what hit them. And if the attacker finds the gun when all is said and done, he can use it on her or his next victim.

(Yes, I would have felt more secure with a gun. Not during the rape, but after being dumped from the car in Trenton's underbelly. But having lived through fear didn't make me live in fear. I'd still rather trust the world than not. If I'd shot and killed the two guys, I'd have carried that guilt forever. As it is, I see it as their problem, not mine.)

Another interesting number might be how many gun owners have lost friends and loved ones due to the accidental discharge of a firearm.

How many gun owners have shot and killed an innocent person, in the mistaken belief that they were protecting themselves....

How many children have shot other children and said "I didn't know it was loaded"

And how many is too many?

Don't know about the first three, but the answer to the last question would be one.

My point is simply that with rights come responsibilities. If gun owners wont accept those responsibilities then legislation may be needed to help them. I wouldn't for one minute dream of denying someone, anyone, who feels a need to protect themselves, from owning a firearm. As far as I know, no gun laws exist that would do this. A lot more gun laws could be enacted before this ever happened. The notion that Obama or any other president is going to take away your firearms is a ridiculous and paranoid notion. Unfortunately the rumor has been started by ridiculous paranoid people, the very people who are most likely to accidentally discharge weapons, to kill an innocent person by mistake(or intentionally) and whose children probably have the easiest access to weapons.

A couple of interesting factoids...

The majority of gun deaths in this country result from suicide (I make no judgement here)

Also I found this....
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One assumes that these children would not be among those who theoretically would have successfully have defended their lives "if only" they were carrying a gun.... although, who knows, maybe indeed there is a feeling that even children should be armed for self defense purposes.... or, what ever comes up...

An interesting concept, that.... children not old enough to vote or sign a contract, children not old enough to join a "well regulated militia"... but old enough, never the less, to carry around a gun for self defense.

Those would be some interesting statistics, Ardy.:-)
Yours,
Issodhos

No one is saying give everyone guns, Almost Naomi. I note though that in your adopted state, anyone can carry a concealed gun without any type of paperwork being done. Is the Vermont slaughter continuing unabated?;-)

As to defending yourself against attack and or rape, to each their own preference. [/quote]
Yours,
Issodhos

I think the tottler cut-off age should be extended from the 19 year old thug to the 28 year old thug, don't you, Ardy? Statistics. Doncha love 'em? They're so .. so .. well, so flexible, aren't they?:-))
Yours,
Issodhos