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What I was suggesting is that any change at all to the State Constitution should require a supermajority, by any route. No distinction between "amendments" and "revisions".
Adding, subtracting, or modifying the laws should require only a simple majority vote in the legislature and in a ballot initiative.
The Constitution is supposed to be the basic social contract, and should not be easy to change.
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"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
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The depths to which some people will go still astounds me. In case you couldn't get to the other video... Crooks and Liars - NOM Exposed
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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What I was suggesting is that any change at all to the State Constitution should require a supermajority, by any route. No distinction between "amendments" and "revisions".
Adding, subtracting, or modifying the laws should require only a simple majority vote in the legislature and in a ballot initiative.
The Constitution is supposed to be the basic social contract, and should not be easy to change. Given what has happened in Iowa and Vermont in recent days, and given that the CA Supreme Court has the opportunity rule that Prop 8 is a revision to the CA Constitution and not an admendment, the CA Supreme Court can align itself with the current trend across the country.
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This was a shock to me. I thought I had paid pretty close attention to history classes throughout high school and college. Apparently I did not. It was my understanding until reading this post that the so-called sexual revolution took place roughly between A.D. 1963 and 1975. Apparently, it was in fact, several centuries prior to that. Else, it could not have preceded the Spanish Inquisition, the burning of witches, the mass extermination of Native Americans, or the Holocaust! I was not previously aware that Popes Lucius III and Gregory IX were married to men, that Eva Braun was in fact a man to whom Adolf Hitler was married, that Cotton Mather was married to Miles Standish, or that Generals Sherman, Sheridan, Custer, and others all married West Point classmates! It is amazing what one can learn here at Reader Rant!
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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The current governor of a major U.S. southern state, the campaign manager of a U.S. president, a senior West Coast congressman, a former mayor of New York City, and others are among those outed in Kirby Dick’s “Outrage,” a provocative new documentary debuting tomorrow night at the Tribeca Film Festival. Unseen in its finished form until yesterday, the film is likely to cause waves in political and media circles as word gets out about its subject matter. (indieWIRE watched the final cut of the documentary on Thursday.)
To seasoned politicos, those named as closeted gay politicians in Kirby Dick’s “Outrage” - many of them socially conservative Republicans - will not come as a complete surprise. Indeed many of those profiled in the film, have had rumors swirling around them in political circles and alternative media already - and some for years. Nevertheless, the mainstream media have been hesitant and even openly reluctant to pursue the truth about allegedly gay politicians from the past and present.
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame
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The current governor of a major U.S. southern state, the campaign manager of a U.S. president, a senior West Coast congressman, a former mayor of New York City, and others are among those outed in Kirby Dick’s “Outrage,” a provocative new documentary debuting tomorrow night at the Tribeca Film Festival. Unseen in its finished form until yesterday, the film is likely to cause waves in political and media circles as word gets out about its subject matter. (indieWIRE watched the final cut of the documentary on Thursday.)
To seasoned politicos, those named as closeted gay politicians in Kirby Dick’s “Outrage” - many of them socially conservative Republicans - will not come as a complete surprise. Indeed many of those profiled in the film, have had rumors swirling around them in political circles and alternative media already - and some for years. Nevertheless, the mainstream media have been hesitant and even openly reluctant to pursue the truth about allegedly gay politicians from the past and present. Is it OK to "out" anyone? Or is that an invasion of privacy? On one hand, I can see that exposing hypocrisy is important, but OTOH, I have an aversion to those who think that they(in this case, ACT UP) have the right to determine who and who isn't a hypocrit.
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Scout, that is a very controversial issue. My own standard is that if a person occupies a public position, whether elected or otherwise, and is public on issues affecting equal rights, gay lifestyle, etc, they have made the question of their sexuality public.
I am not a fan of outing someone because their parent is famous or public on this issue, but certainly any politician who, as all those listed in the article, have made being gay a political issue, are fair game for "outing."
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame
You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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