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Please note that I was not using an exact quote, loganrbt. If I had been, I would have used quotes and cited the passage. and, just in case you are unaware of it, his words were written down differently in Matthew, Mark, and Luke -- ya know, cause they were like 3 different dudes?;-) Yours in scriptural rectitude, Issodhos
Distortion of the text is distortion whether the distorted text is placed in quotation marks or not. I expect far better defense than that from you, sir!
Please do not mistake my correcting you as being meant as defense, loganrbt. And let us leave your strawman to other endeavors, shall we?;-)
By the way, in considering some of the more defensive responses I have seen in this thread, it occurs to me that some folks seem to feel a threat to their perceived sense of moral superiority.;-) Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
By the way, in considering some of the more defensive responses I have seen in this thread, it occurs to me that some folks seem to feel a threat to their perceived sense of moral superiority.;-)
The day you learn that what you think others are thinking or feeling is a day I will celebrate. each and every time you have projected onto me your own thoughts over the years you have been entirely wrong.
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
Please note that I was not using an exact quote, loganrbt. If I had been, I would have used quotes and cited the passage. and, just in case you are unaware of it, his words were written down differently in Matthew, Mark, and Luke -- ya know, cause they were like 3 different dudes?;-) Yours in scriptural rectitude, Issodhos
Distortion of the text is distortion whether the distorted text is placed in quotation marks or not. I expect far better defense than that from you, sir!
Please do not mistake my correcting you as being meant as defense, loganrbt. And let us leave your strawman to other endeavors, shall we?;-)
By the way, in considering some of the more defensive responses I have seen in this thread, it occurs to me that some folks seem to feel a threat to their perceived sense of moral superiority.;-) Yours, Issodhos
yes, I totally agree with that characterization of your posts! We agree on something! Cue orchestra. Cue choir.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
He was motivated by something other than selflessness.
Here again we see the distinction between the concept of altruism as it is commonly used in modern vernacular and as a technical term in the study of ethics and philosophy. Many of the examples that have been offered by others in this discussion describe the former interpretation, liberated from the necessity of proving the absence of self-interest.
In fact, it seems to me, there is nearly a consensus among us that altruism generally does include some degree of self-interest. The odd man out being you, iss. Which explains very neatly how the rest of us can celebrate our altruism and the altruism of others, whilst you doggedly insist that it doesn't exist.
Vive la difference I say. And let's not get into personal sniping over it. For you, it's a load of piffle. For the rest of us, it's a delightful and rewarding part of life. So be it.
Steve
Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love, to respect and be kind to one another, so that we may grow with peace in mind. (Native American prayer)
He was motivated by something other than selflessness.
Here again we see the distinction between the concept of altruism as it is commonly used in modern vernacular and as a technical term in the study of ethics and philosophy. Many of the examples that have been offered by others in this discussion describe the former interpretation, liberated from the necessity of proving the absence of self-interest.
In fact, it seems to me, there is nearly a consensus among us that altruism generally does include some degree of self-interest. The odd man out being you, iss. Which explains very neatly how the rest of us can celebrate our altruism and the altruism of others, whilst you doggedly insist that it doesn't exist.
Actually, I think it is more a case of some folks seeking to redefine the issue so that it will comforably line up with their pat answers. I think it upsets some to think that they are not as morally superior as they perceive themselves to be. As to personal sniping, that began almost immediately. Dodge away. I am a patient man. Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
To make a tinfoil hat you type a bracket [ and a colon : with a space between them it looks like this [ : remove the space and you get this [: When Issodhos plays these word games I put on my [: To the best of my knowledge no one has ever convinced him he was wrong. No personal snipe there, Isso, just an observation. In his own way and by his rules he is quite correct. :[ it can be a smiley bracket in either direction but as you see, a frownie bracket does not make a tinfoil hat.
In his own way and by his rules he is quite correct.
Yep. There you have it. Not much different from the rest of us, wot?
Steve
Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love, to respect and be kind to one another, so that we may grow with peace in mind. (Native American prayer)
To make a tinfoil hat you type a bracket [ and a colon : with a space between them it looks like this [ : remove the space and you get this [:
Not sure what happened there. I "loaded" the tin foil hat from the smilie set on the board, just like the laughers. They all came over intact, but that one did not.
Strange powers reaching across the Web! :Tinfoil Hat:
Ha! Did it again. So something is amiss with the tool.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
