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Okay, after 15 pages it's time for me to speak up - or should I say "go wild?"
I would have no problem whatsoever with a law that made all privately-owed firearms illegal. I would also be fine with a law that allowed single-shot rifles - or, for that matter, black powder - for hunting purposes.
It's only my personal opinion, but I thought one of us NRA-defamin, wild leftie anti-freedom anti gun nuts ought to go wild somewhere in this thread.
Here's how I see it: While it's entirely possible that I might need to take arms against my government, the truth is that damage to me, personally, by firearm is much, much more likely, and it's not going to come from the government - it's most likely to come from a ticked-off coworker or ex-coworker, or an enraged spouse, ex-spouse, or date. Or a pissed-off kid in a shopping mall.
Sorry. But I've paid enough attention to know where my real danger lies. I'm in a lot less danger from the government people are so anxious to have arms to bear against, than I am from the people who have the arms. Especially if they haven't locked up their guns, or if they've had too much to drink, or if they have a violent temper.
And yes, I know that none of the gun owners on this thread fit those categories. I congratulate you. And frankly, I don't give much of a sh*t. I just don't. Widespread gun ownership endangers me, and I don't like it. And I'm already aware that gunowners don't give much of a rat's ass for my opinion, which is why I usually don't state it in these threads.
Too many people die in this country. Maybe there will always be violence, but the good thing about a lunatic with a knife is that it's harder to knife a bunch of people to death before someone stops you.
Am I going to hit the road and wave placards and, pardon me, go ballistic? Nope. I'm not even going to work hard for anti-gun laws -- although if one of my representatives ever grows a pair and suggests restrictive laws, I'll vote for them.
I just don't have any hope of this country coming to its senses where guns are concerned. And so far as I'm concern, it's not worth riling up the gun owners, because they have a tendency to be really pissy about the subject.
There. Hell of a threat, huh?
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There. Hell of a threat, huh? Now, don't go getting all pissy, Mellowicious.:-) Yours, Issodhos
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Mellow...Thanks for shooting off...so to speak. Kind of Iss...Yes, Vermont has lenient gun laws. It's about as easy to get a gun here as it is to get a Big Mac at a drive-through window. But it's also one of the safest states. Not because everyone's out there with their guns fending off attackers, but because VT has a small (approx. 650,000) and relatively peaceful population: farmers, old Hippies, artists and so on. Lots of hunters, too, but all they care about shooting is deer. But would it be a good move to give New York or New Jersey the same easy-access laws?
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There. Hell of a threat, huh? Now, don't go getting all pissy, Mellowicious.:-) Yours, Issodhos She's not packing, Isso. Thanks, Mellow. I couldn't agree more. To what Naomi said. Not because everyone's out there with their guns fending off attackers, but because VT has a small (approx. 650,000) and relatively peaceful population: farmers, old Hippies, artists and so on. Lots of hunters, too, but all they care about shooting is deer. As in Vermont, I understand per capita Canada is armed even more heavily than US but gun deaths aren't nearly as prevalent. I'm not sure gun control/regulations would even be an issue if it was that peaceful in the rest of the country. We're suffering from severely bad attitudes.
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Mellow! Well said!!! 
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So far no one here has admitted to be willing to wear a t-shirt, pin or button or placing a sticker on their car, mailbox or front door saying the wearer/occupant is never armed.
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Got one? I'll wear it. I can't imagine anyone in the world looking at me and thinking "Oh, yeah, she's packing, for sure..."
Of course I'd wear it.
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(late edit: this is a great example of a complete disconnect between views of the world. I can't think of a time I've looked at people and wondered who was armed and who wasn't. I don't think about guns; they are not part of my world unless my brother-in-law says he's going hunting or there's a shooting in the news. I generally assume that the people around me are not armed unless they are law enforcement officers.
I don't believe I want that outlook to change.)
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So far no one here has admitted to be willing to wear a t-shirt, pin or button or placing a sticker on their car, mailbox or front door saying the wearer/occupant is never armed. The response that would get around here would be a quizzical shake of the head and..."What does that mean?" (The leading state-wide news story tonight was the gov's veto of same-sex marriage. The next was about a grade school discontinuing its String Class [violin lessons] for lack of funds. Followed by the swearing in of the mayor of Burlington.)
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Mellow...Thanks for shooting off...so to speak. Kind of Iss...Yes, Vermont has lenient gun laws. It's about as easy to get a gun here as it is to get a Big Mac at a drive-through window. But it's also one of the safest states. Not because everyone's out there with their guns fending off attackers, but because VT has a small (approx. 650,000) and relatively peaceful population: farmers, old Hippies, artists and so on. Lots of hunters, too, but all they care about shooting is deer. But would it be a good move to give New York or New Jersey the same easy-access laws? Which demonstrates that access to firearms is not the issue?;-) Yours, Issodhos
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