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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Got one? I'll wear it. I can't imagine anyone in the world looking at me and thinking "Oh, yeah, she's packing, for sure..."

Of course I'd wear it.

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(late edit: this is a great example of a complete disconnect between views of the world. I can't think of a time I've looked at people and wondered who was armed and who wasn't. I don't think about guns; they are not part of my world unless my brother-in-law says he's going hunting or there's a shooting in the news. I generally assume that the people around me are not armed unless they are law enforcement officers.

I would think that those most interested in whether someone is carrying concealed would be cops and goblins -- the former for force protection reasons and the latter for seeking prey. I know that it is not something I ponder.

And if one wishes to carry a handgun on her person, carrying concealed is the way to go out of simple consideration for others -- as well as for weapon retention purposes.;-)
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Originally Posted by Slipped Mickey
So far no one here has admitted to be willing to wear a t-shirt, pin or button or placing a sticker on their car, mailbox or front door saying the wearer/occupant is never armed.

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I have no stickers on my car other than a parking sticker
I do not make it a practice to wear pins or t-shirts advertising my political views.

That said, I have no objection to what you have proposed.
I am wondering, are there people driving around looking for cars that seem as thought the occupants may be unarmed?

And, where I live, in the summer it would be pretty obvious if someone was or was not packing a gun.... no t-shirt or pin required. But, I do try to imagine some reprobate cruising through town looking for the target of opportunity that advertises not having a gun.

I am not sure what sort of criminals that you run into, but the sort I am familiar with will sneak up on you and stick a gun in your ribs... at which point any gun you carry simply becomes another item to steal

I can see how some people may wish to have a gun in their house... although I really prefer to live somewhere were I feel OK leaving my doors unlocked.




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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Widespread gun ownership endangers me, and I don't like it. And I'm already aware that gunowners don't give much of a rat's ass for my opinion, which is why I usually don't state it in these threads.

If it will help you to put the risk in proportion, Mellowicious, you are a much greater danger to yourself then than you are from a gun owner -- Goblin or good guy.:-)
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Used to be in Florida that when people would fly into Miami and rent a car they would often be followed and robbed. That's fact. It happened because of the license plate on cars at that time identifying them as rental cars. Mark yourself as easy prey and you are more likely to be preyed upon than someone who may be a more difficult target. It is also why you never see a maniac walk into a police station armed to the teeth looking to take out dozens of people.

If you know anything about defense, personal or otherwise, you know that the primary rule is - Never make yourself an easy target. Somewhere in the top three is - Never bring attention to yourself.

The State of Florida mandated a change in rental license plates and preying on tourists coming out of the airports in rental cars greatly decreased.






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Originally Posted by Slipped Mickey
Used to be in Florida that when people would fly into Miami and rent a car they would often be followed and robbed. That's fact.

I believe it was a particularly nasty killing of a German tourist couple that finally got them to not mark the cars as rentals. And yes, goblins tend to look for easy prey.

I have always held to the adage that if one is looking for trouble, one is going to find trouble. So, the first thing one does to avoid trouble is to not look for trouble, and preferably, if it can be avoided, don't go where trouble may find you. Also, regardless of where you go, do not look like a victim waiting to happen. Thirdly, be aware of your surroundings. This applies whether one is "carrying" or not, and whether one is a man or a women.
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Originally Posted by issodhos
If it will help you to put the risk in proportion, Mellowicious, you are a much greater danger to yourself then than you are from a gun owner -- Goblin or good guy.:-)
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Issodhos - having risk in proportion is what led me to the position I hold. I have no intention of arming against myself. That would be, well, silly. And if I won't arm myself against the greater danger I present to myself, I certainly won't arm myself against a lesser, external one. But I appreciate your concern.

As for those who are concerned about what might happen if I wear a t-shirt or button proclaiming myself to be unarmed - mottoed t-shirts are fairly common in this country, and such a statement might well be taken with the same grain of salt as the statement that I am "with Stupid."


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If it will help you to put the risk in proportion, Mellowicious, you are a much greater danger to yourself then than you are from a gun owner -- Goblin or good guy.:-)
Yours,
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Issodhos - having risk in proportion is what led me to the position I hold. I have no intention of arming against myself. That would be, well, silly. And if I won't arm myself against the greater danger I present to myself, I certainly won't arm myself against a lesser, external one. But I appreciate your concern.

You do know that I was referring to suicide, don't you, Mellowicious? By any means.
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Originally Posted by issodhos
You do know that I was referring to suicide, don't you, Mellowicious? By any means.
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Better, perhaps, than you know. Be careful what you presume about my knowledge or experience, Iss - in some places, there be dragons.

Perhaps you have data to offer? I'm sure it's out there.

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I have always held to the adage that if one is looking for trouble, one is going to find trouble. So, the first thing one does to avoid trouble is to not look for trouble, and preferably, if it can be avoided, don't go where trouble may find you. Also, regardless of where you go, do not look like a victim waiting to happen. Thirdly, be aware of your surroundings. This applies whether one is "carrying" or not, and whether one is a man or a women.

Now we have three things we agree on, Iss: The above, Adam Lambert and Janis Joplin. Makes me wonder if the sky is falling! [Linked Image from smileyshut.com]


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You do know that I was referring to suicide, don't you, Mellowicious? By any means.
Yours,
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Better, perhaps, than you know. Be careful what you presume about my knowledge or experience, Iss - in some places, there be dragons.

Perhaps you have data to offer? I'm sure it's out there.

Not presuming anything, Mellowicious. Simply seeking and offering clarification. As to the data, if I recall correctly suicides as a cause of death nationally were roughly twice as high as homicides. I do not remember the year, but I do not think it was more than a few years ago.
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