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There is a search function going back at least a year, Ardy. Avail yourself of it if you wish.
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Gosh, I did not think it would be such a problem for you to find an example of an circumstance so pervasive as you seem to imply.


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Authorities were searching a campground near Temecula tonight after reports that a gunman shot four people during a religious retreat. Details about the shooting were sketchy, and it's unclear if the gunman is still at large. Riverside County Sheriff's deputies and California Highway Patrol officers were scouring a large expanse of open space off California 79. KTLA News reported that the shooting occurred during some type of church retreat. Fox 11 said early reports indicated that four people had been shot, and two were in critical condition. KCAL-TV said authorities were searching for a 70-year-old man who is believed to be the gunman.
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Gunman kills one, then self at German court

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LANDSHUT, Germany (AFP) — A gunman killed one person then himself Tuesday in a rampage at a German courthouse, police said, in a country still shaken after a teenage shooter murdered 15 people less than a month ago.

A 60-year-old man shot dead his sister-in-law, 48, during a recess from a hearing in the southern city of Landshut in a long-running inheritance dispute, a police spokesman said.

He then shot and wounded a lawyer involved in the case and another sister-in-law before turning the Smith and Wesson revolver on himself.
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saw a rather graphic video last night, I dont want particularly to post the link.

it was of a mother and son at a shooting range, rented weapons BTW, for no apparent reason the mother calmly shot the son in the back of the head and then put the gun in here own mouth.



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Yours in full control of my inner fascist,
Issodhos

Assuming for the moment that free choice is not an illusion foisted upon you by your inner fascist.

ROTFMOL ROTFMOL ROTFMOL

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I respect your right not to exercise your right to own and use a firearm.

Hopefully, you are willing to allow me the same right to choose.

I have no problem with you, in your individualistic isolation, owning and using a firearm --- provided you are as careful and responsible as the stereotypical Switzer.

However, when your owning of a firearm is part of a system of gun ownership that causes more harm than good to other people, then I think that your "rights" become more problematical.

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Originally Posted by issodhos
I respect your right not to exercise your right to own and use a firearm.

Hopefully, you are willing to allow me the same right to choose.

I have no problem with you, in your individualistic isolation, owning and using a firearm --- provided you are as careful and responsible as the stereotypical Switzer.

However, when your owning of a firearm is part of a system of gun ownership that causes more harm than good to other people, then I think that your "rights" become more problematical.
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That is a rather long-winded "no", numan.;-)
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There is a search function going back at least a year, Ardy. Avail yourself of it if you wish.
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Gosh, I did not think it would be such a problem for you to find an example of an circumstance so pervasive as you seem to imply.

If it is that important to you, Ardy, here is a quick example:

From “Gun Freaks – Subhumans or Humans”
"Only so may the gun freaks be chained to the mountains of evil which they have created. May vultures gnaw out their livers every day for the rest of their lives!*

It would be a boon to get as many of these degenerates out of decent society as possible.

I will also point out that those who defied alcohol Prohibition were a large percentage of the populataion. The gun freaks are a very small minority.


If I were such a person, I would rightly be considered subhuman filth."

http://readerrant.capitolhillblue.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4294#Post4294
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Gosh - that's the one I found last night - the only one I could find. There were at least two protests to the title, which was rude but within the guidelines. Oh, and the person who started that thread hasn't been around since then - two years ago.

I would also note that the thread in question was immediately after the Virginia Tech shootings, and emotions were running very high.



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Thanks for the details, Julia. I had reached the same conclusion.


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