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I thought this was a thread about Susan Boyle. 
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*giggles* I saw an opportunity to needle you Darling Mellow. I don't disagree with you at all. I know what your bigger point was. I was just trying to be contrary. Greger, Ms Roberts was born in the same hospital that I was and attended a high school that (if I had been in public school) would have. She's beautiful and genteel and I know she's got a very sexy personna but it's her down to earthness that I think is sexy. And pairing up with Lyle if even for a short time also showed class in my opinion because he is a class act. Emma, Caught! But I think we've gotten off on appearances and how we judge people before we know what's on the inside. Was it NWP in this very thread that said that is the beauty of the internet? I couldn't agree more. At one time talking to strangers like this freaked me out. I'm a total believer now. I don't care what all y'all look like in 'real' life. You're beautiful in my mind. 
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(Sorry - been fighting the infamous error)
It is. (about ms boyd, that is)
I've had some time to think about this, and I know exactly why this got to me (although I just came from getting a hair cut, and a few customers there were talking about how badly Ms. Boyd was treated.)
Very simply, if you say "47 years old, graying hair, receding chin, some extra weight, not particularly graceful," you'd be describing Ms. Doyle. But you would also be describing me.
Without the voice, of course.
I'm not saying that we are sisters; we simply share some characteristics (given that voice, I wish we shared more.) But I think there was a part of me that very strongly identified with her. In her place, I would have received the same derisive dismissal. It's a little hard to handle.
Especially as one who is terminally shy to begin with, if there was ever a hope in hell of my overcoming stage fright, it's probably gone now.
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OK I stole the chicken coop, actually a large parrot cage but no such exotic bird is going to live in it now. Susan Boyle's voice is fantastic. What I see most of all that I take exception to is age discrimination. Because she isn't young people think immediately that she can't have talent. She mighta been a real cutie at 25, still quite attractive(figuratively speaking) at 35 and 40. For most of us once you've hit and passed 45 things are starting to head south. I thought she was kinda cute. She carried herself well and walked confidently in heels. Excellent performance and I hope she finds her dream. Back to Lyle Lovett, I know what he looks like, I know how he sounds, Who is Julia Roberts Anyway? Just some chick that married a famous singer. Famous singers always get good looking girls. While I am sure age and appearance as such played a role in the reaction, remember that young people tend to think that at a certain age you will not, cannot and for some should not make it in show biz. For example, every pop diva over 40 faces it at some point. It is not that the person is viewed as unattractive in the larger sense, but often unattractive to them. I think that is a significant difference, based upon my insistence in participating in gay dance parties where most everyone else is 20-40. Almost none of them find me attractive, but few find me unattractive. The first involves that ineffable quantity of sexual energy, the latter is broader and more based on personality.
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I would agree with you, Phil, except that one of the judges said it very plainly: before she started to sing, the crowd was against her.
It's one thing to be uninterested. It's another to be actively disapproving.
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this women will hopefully not fizzle out with this video. i hope we hear a lot more of her. Simon will make sure she doesn't. He liked her. He takes care of the one's he likes.
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What kind of human beings make a decision for or against someone - an entire audience, mind you - based on her appearance? Regular, every day, human beings. Everyone does it all day, every day.
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So whatever was wrong with Lyle Lovett's looks? Homely. I'm not a Lyle Lovett fan nor could I understand the relationship between Julia Roberts and Mr. Lovett. Their relationship was like a Disney movie: Beauty and The Beast.
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I wouldn't be too hard on old Snargle, and according to Julia, when it comes to Lyle hanging the moon, the word "hung" apparently figured prominently, so I guess there's the answer to that question.  Well that explains it.  "Darling, pass the Cherrios, and please keep that bag over your head in place. Thanks."
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..Im' not interested in Julia whatsit...Roberts. Two words: Pretty Woman
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