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Iran protesters 'defy ban' Thousands of Iranians have staged a rally against the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, defying a government ban on protests.
Reuters agency reports marchers have clashed with Ahmadinejad supporters.
Defeated candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi said he would attend and urge calm. He wants the election results annulled, alleging fraud
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cant see the youtube videos in work, will have to wait until i get home, but apparentyl the protests are large, peaceful and being allowed to progress by security officials.
also Press TV is actually reporting them. a significant change.
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Here's an incredible video that has been sent...the motorcycle cops drive right into the crowd. Then, apparently, the crowd turns on them. At the end, a group in the crowd has rescued one of the cops. ---My gut tells me that the rescuers were most likely Ahmadinejad supporters.
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Bill O. had some "spokeswoman" on who hadn't lived in Iran for 30 years - typical source for Bill O. - who feels that there is not enough evidence one way or the other to suggest election fraud.
Bill O. reluctantly agreed although he tried pressing her to say there was - which is also typical.
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i suspect the msm in both countries are being tame on the request of the powers that be. certainly this is delicate enough that western allies are worried they could screw the pooch. they likely risk alienating the current regime if they make too bold a move, and that would include media coverage. Exactly and given that Iran has a border with both Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Here's an incredible video that has been sent...the motorcycle cops drive right into the crowd. Then, apparently, the crowd turns on them. At the end, a group in the crowd has rescued one of the cops. ---My gut tells me that the rescuers were most likely Ahmadinejad supporters. I think your gut is wrong in this case. if the violence develops however i dont think we will be seeing such acts of brotherhood. part to the tweeting messages are that the repression is being conducted by lebanese imports, probably an exaggeration or propaganda, theres enough fundies there for beating duties. General strike called for today, along with an "anti rioter" protest (ahmednijad). read an interesting comment last night, think it was on Juan Cole's site. The protests could now be self sustaining. If anyone protester is killed there will be a funeral and automatically another opportunity (and grievance) to protest.
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Bill O. had some "spokeswoman" on who hadn't lived in Iran for 30 years - typical source for Bill O. - who feels that there is not enough evidence one way or the other to suggest election fraud.
Bill O. reluctantly agreed although he tried pressing her to say there was - which is also typical. Andrew Sullivan made a comment on this, about how the Neocons appear to be lining up to legitimise Adhemdinijads "victory". Preferring to beat on Obamas foreign policy (id say Obamas impact on this situation is limited to the symbolic), maintian the simple fiction that Iran is a nation of insane fundamentalists and not the complicated picture of a relatively modern country, with huge social stresses and pressures. it does have a police state and a theocracy, but the state is not the people - as evidenced by the protests. The protests are highly religious also. One of the shouts of "freedom" that the people are using is "Allah Ackbar" - now rthat must twist the brains of the manchean types.
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go to the boston globe and look at the photos and then look at the comments on the bottom, presumably from iranians trying to get messages out. very moving page. VIEW HERE
sure, you can talk to god, but if you don't listen then what's the use? so, onward through the fog!
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go to the boston globe and look at the photos and then look at the comments on the bottom, presumably from iranians trying to get messages out. very moving page. VIEW HEREThis uprising reminds me of Tiennamen Square in 1989.
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I read thru the first 47 comments. Amazing. As was stated in the comments, the government has turned off the internet and SMS cell phones. ...but Twitter is working! That is how these messages are getting out. 
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