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Originally Posted by Ardy
But, fundamentally, we should leave the kids alone.... no excuses.
Absolutely. The Clinton's did that with Chealsea. No one saw her until she became an adult.

Sarah, brings the whole family on stage - even the baby daddy of her un-wed daughter, then conventiently dumped him once he served his purpose.

As I stated above, Bristol Palin is now making the TV circuit rounds promoting abstience. She placed herself into the public eye - now she's fair game.



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I don't really give a damn what Letterman OR Palin think about the joke.

However, neither of them were the target of the joke -- a 14-year-old girl was. That's a burden she shouldn't be asked to bear.
Julia, with all due respect, tell that to Sarah and Todd Palin.

As for Rick's comment regarding Bristol, I agree whole heartedly.
2wins, you're missing the point, or I'm not making it well -- this is not the adult Palins. This affects a 14-year-old girl.

Letterman can make all the jokes he wants about Sarah and Todd Palin. They have more-or-less asked for whatever they get. But leave the girl alone. None of this is her fault.

She is the injured party - no one else.


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Originally Posted by california rick
As I stated above, Bristol Palin is now making the TV circuit rounds promoting abstience. She placed herself into the public eye - now she's fair game.

I understand the point you are making... although I am not sure she really understands what she is doing or how it might all play out. I suspect that she may have been explicitly or implicitly manipulated by her parents into that situation.

If Bristol goes off and committs a crime... fine, let her pay the price. But I personally am willing to cut her some slack... despite my revulsion for her parents role in putting her in that situation.


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I truly belive that the "joke writers" of The David Letterman Show "thought" that Bristol with with Sarah and not 14 year old Willow.

Think about it, why would David Letterman hurt his career and reputation by saying that about a 14 year old child?

He wouldn't. That's suicide.


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Originally Posted by Ardy
...although I am not sure she really understands what she is doing or how it might all play out. I suspect that she may have been explicitly or implicitly manipulated by her parents into that situation.
Quite possibly true that she doesn't "understand what she's doing" or gotten herself into.

The fact remains, once you get into "the spotlight" - the gloves come off and you become fairgame to the paparazzi and the tabloids and late-night commedians.

Someone should have explained this to Bristol, surely her mother wouldn't - she's looking for a 2012 Presidential run. She needs to keep her name "out there" so people don't "forget" her.


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It's like sick game with the Palins, isn't it? They deliberately "misunderstand"/mischaracterize what someone says, then try to play the "victim" card - over and over and over and over. I think it is pretty obvious that there was a mistake, Lettterman apologized, and what should have been a 24-hour kerfuffle has metasticized into a weeklong brouhaha. Typical Republican approach... I think it is on page 3 of the playbook.


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Originally Posted by SkyHawk
Banging Sarah Palin's daughters
June 15, 2009 - 7:59am.
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Alaska Governor and national political figure wannabe Sarah Palin got her panties in a bunch last week after late night comedian David Letterman joked that New York Yankees man about town Alex Rodriquez knocked up Palin's daughter.

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I don't know if Willow is getting it on with any of the locals up in Alaska or if she is handing it out on the road but when a young, impressionable teenage girl has role models like Sarah and Bristol Palin anything is possible.

Letterman's slur was simply another reminder of the coarsening of societal discourse and conduct, Doug. I cannot find any reason for his comment to be rationalized or defended, and I can understand why a mother would get her "panties in a twist" over a comment like that bein directed at her daughter on a nationally-watched television program. In fact, I could understand her getting her "panties in a twist" even if it had been said in a private setting by Letterman or anyone else.

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It's not David Letterman's fault that Willow became the target of a joke about sex.

Oh, it most certainly is Letterman's fault. He is the one who elected to do the slur, Doug.;-)
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Originally Posted by california rick
Actually now the Bristol Palin is making the 'TV circuit rounds' advocating abstinance - she's fair game.

Additionally, the whole Palin family is fair game since Sarah used them as campaign props during the '08 campaingn.

Actually, Rick, Sarah Palin and her family were made fair game for an avalanche of smears almost from the day she was named as Senator McCain's running mate. It does no good now to pretend that the Democrat's smear machine was not pro-active on this issue.

And, are you suggesting that President Obama did not parlay his wife and daughters into political campaign capital? If so, when do you propose they become "fair game"?
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President Obama rolled out his family during the campaign three times. During his acceptance speech, during this victory speech and during a People Magazine interview.

Mr. and Mrs. Obama have since not put the girls up for publicity. It was after the People Magazine interview that Bill and Hillary cautioned Michelle and Barack about exposing their daughters to the media. Because you can't roll you kids out for the press, then ask the press to leave the alone.

...besides, Sarah needs to keep her name out there as she's running for President in 2012.

Since that advice, the Obama's daughters have been out of the public eye.

Given that Sarah Palin is a "Family Value" Republican, she can't help but force her family on us on a daily basis.


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Originally Posted by california rick
I truly belive that the "joke writers" of The David Letterman Show "thought" that Bristol with with Sarah and not 14 year old Willow.

Think about it, why would David Letterman hurt his career and reputation by saying that about a 14 year old child?

He wouldn't. That's suicide.

Rick, please show me where any media personality has been punished, let alone engaged in a suicidal act, by smearing the Palin family or in engaging in slurs directed against them.
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