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people keep suggesting that this thread is absurd and a waste of time and while i get that there is a bigger issue at hand here, i believe. gov. palin is a lightning rod and has captured the hearts of roughly half of our population. it is, i blieve, symptomatic of people's inabilty to weed through rhetoric and look at substance. people would rather feel good than get down and dirty and face reality in hopes of solving problems. and to be fair, the same goes for pres. obama and his ardent supporters, however pres. obama does not set off my screaming red lights the way gov. palin does. as well, this issue is about emotion and how we feel about ourselves, not about substance. i and others believe she used this is a chance to keep her name out there, and while doing so perpetuate the notion that she has the pulse of the nation and can make you feel better about yourself. in short, like so many pols, she is a snake oil salesman. the real key for me is to feel good about who i am and where i am no matter what. i know that many of you take the same approach to life, yet so many do not. they are plugged into every electronic orifice, waiting for that next big thing to make them feel different, better etc. it is a con game in the extreme.


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Originally Posted by loganrbt
And I applaud you for being equally appalled by the same type of "humor" at the expense of the Obamas and Clintons. Fair and Balanced!

you mean like when I defended michelle Obama's "... first time ... really proud" statement by pointing out that the line was being misquoted and when corrected it did not have the same connotation?

Or when I defended President Obama against charges that his "lipstick on a pig" remark was not directed at Governor Palin?
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I think Senator Obama really was referring to Senator McCain's attempt to portray himself as a reformer, and did not intend for it to be taken as an insult to Governor Palin.
Why, thanks, loganrbt.:-)
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P.s. Oh, by the way, in contrast to the treatment of Governor Palin's family, Michelle Obama and her daughters have been handled with kid gloves. So it is disengenuous of you to imply otherwise.


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she is, in a word, a shrew. i'd use the other words but they would be censored.

Oh, I doubt that, 2wins. As long as it is directed against an elected official who is a Republican (or at least a non-Powell Republican;-)) you should have no problem. After all, one moderator referred to her as a "pathetic loser" and a "brainless twit", and another moderator referred to Senator McCain as a lying sack of excrement", so you should be safe.:-))
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greger, what gets me is that you and a couple of well meaning people on this thread keep going back to the whole child thing,
Beggin yer pardon there, 2wins, but the title of the thread is BANGING SARAH PALIN'S DAUGHTERS not "Banging the 18 year old" not "Banging Sarah Palin" but her daughters. Plural, The 18 year old, the 14 year old, the preteen, and the baby. The joke was specifically, if mistakenly, aimed at the 14 year old. You guys might feel like crude sexual jokes about children are cool and wonderful humor, I don't. I'd be happy to stop arguing if you'd stop telling me its ok for old men to talk about screwing a 14 year old on national tv and that it's funny and ok because it's Sarah Palin's Daughter.
If the thread is now about Sarah Palin I'm done with because I hate the woman and have nothing to say about her.


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After all, one moderator referred to her as a "pathetic loser" and a "brainless twit", and another moderator referred to Senator McCain as a lying sack of excrement", so you should be safe.
Yes, as long as you keep your comments truthful like those above, and don't resort to name calling you will will remain within the guidelines;)


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Originally Posted by 2wins
scout,

maybe you're missing my point. gov. palin is an opportunist and she is capitalizing on her children to advance her position. ok, letterman was wrong, but HOW wrong is gov. palin?

I didn't miss the point. I think that Gov. Palin deserves everything she gets. But the Palin children do not.

So I'll add this;

1) Is Gov. Palin trying to make political hay out of everything she does, in order to keep her name in the Media(and doing a poor job of it)? Yes

2) Do her children deserve to be targets because of their mother's self-serving actions? No


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2) Do her children deserve to be targets because of their mother's self-serving actions? No

So having gotten to "no" should the pilloried person be the one who brought the targets onto the rifle range or the folks who aimed at the targets she presented?

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So having gotten to "no" should the pilloried person be the one who brought the targets onto the rifle range or the folks who aimed at the targets she presented?
I would say the one who does the shooting is responsible for who gets hit.. Wolves, bears, marksmen, targets, you will make any excuse to make it ok to turn the children into sex objects. Creepy.

By their very existence the Obama children are on the same rifle range.


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2) Do her children deserve to be targets because of their mother's self-serving actions? No

So having gotten to "no" should the pilloried person be the one who brought the targets onto the rifle range or the folks who aimed at the targets she presented?

Both. Exploiting and/or attacking children is always a no-no. nono

{But I would like to know how taking your kid to a baseball game is exploitation}


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Governor Palin needed to strenuously object to a joke that by every indication was aimed at Willow, a minor. Once Letterman apologized and explained that the joke was about 18 year old Bristol I hope the governor consulted with her older child and got her go ahead before she defended her.

Those who want to side with Palin will call Bristol a child. There's no definitive line between being a child and a young adult. Maybe it has to do with maturity. But it seems to me that part of good parenting would be treating your 18 year old like a young adult.


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