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seeing 10 months of hatred and vile and vicious attacks directed at Governor Palin's children and husband, I have never disparaged Todd Palin. He's always been my favorite Palin. 
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Actually, Phil, there is some reason for this discussion, and that is whether the children (particularly minor children) should have to carry the burden of their parents' actions in the public arena... We've all agreed that "minor" children are off-limits; we don't agree on "adult" children who make themselves available to the media. 
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Our outrage isn't for Gov. Palin-it's for Willow Palin. Alex Rodriguez is a public figure and an adult. Willow is a 14 year old girl.  Willow was not the intended target.
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Why is no one outraged at the shot Letterman took at Alex Rodriguez? Why aren't the Yankee's out there defending their "star"? How could he defame the game of Baseball like that? Really, he should be ashamed! Because Alex Rodriguez is a known player - the off-the-field kind.  He cheated on his wife for a crack, no pun attended, at Modonna - and succeeded.
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...I still just don't see how that makes it okay to make obscene jokes about children. No one has ever made a joke about Judy Garland's daughter? Tatum O'Neil, Jody Foster, Carrie Fisher? Right. 
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Once again - the focus, at least on this thread, is (maybe I can summarize) how much of a minor's life can be placed in the public domain due to the position of her parents. You want to talk about parental rights? That's a whooole different story, don't you think? ...for the billionth time the joke was not directed at Willow - it was supposed to be about 18 year old I'm a failure at abstinence Bristol Palin.
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Good parenting??? We.re talking about Gov. Palin here. Her kids are already at a disadvantage. Finally, something that we can agree upon - in this thread. 
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Those who want to side with Palin will call Bristol a child. Piffle. It has nothing to do with siding with Governor Palin or determining what Bristol is to be called. It has to do with those who want to side with common decency. Yours, Issodhos Ah, but common decency is an amorphous thing. At one time it prohibited mentioning African Americans except in pejorative terms, depicted women as lesser than, and often still condones homophobia. There is no definition to the term except in the eye of the beholder. My experience is the term is most often used by brainless people who have no logic to their argument.
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...after thinking about this thread, it occurs to me that a lot of views expressed are pretty conservative. Very interesting.
That's all - just interesting.
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Our outrage isn't for Gov. Palin-it's for Willow Palin. Alex Rodriguez is a public figure and an adult. Willow is a 14 year old girl.  Willow was not the intended target. But that doesn't matter. She was the target. That's like saying, "Oops, I meant to shoot the other guy, my bad" and not expect to be punished for it. And the title of this thread most certainly made intentional targets of minor children.  The glee of those who think it perfectly OK to do so is sickening.
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