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It is also well known in the gay community, the the more sexually repressed the area, the fuller the adult bookstores. Gay men love full adult bookstores.

Me too, Donna. Unfortunately she is in a very big club and she has loads of company. I cannot understand how a spouse would buy into it all to begin with knowing the odds are pretty rotten that they're going to be used, lied to and abused.

I have to go to Washington a few times a year (I am finished for 09, I think) and I have to say that I cannot stand the place. People complain about LA being plastic! First and foremost I don't trust any sumbitch that wears a feckin bowtie. What self respecting man would where a goddam bowtie. You see it a lot in DC (and Baltimore). Any local culture that sends the message to it males that bowtie wearing is OK I have a problem with. Seriously!

Beyond that Washington is nothing if not smoke and mirrors. Nothing there is real. Why in the name of all things holy would a man or a woman want their spouse to live in that environment?

The first time I saw anyone shoot up was in Vietnam. I walked around a bunker and there was a guy who I didn't know jabbing a needle in his arm. It was disgusting. All I wanted to do was take a shower. I feel the same way when I go to DC.

Washington is simply a large concentration of people who live in the political culture. It exists as well in Columbia, SC or Phoenix, AZ. Ms. Sanford surely knew that long ago.

P.S. You can count the men on one hand you see in Phoenix wearing a tie unless you are at the Capitol or a financial institution. You will never, ever, never see anyone here wearing a feckin bowtie.

Absolutely. Again I ask: Why do women stay with men like this? Is it because they've grown accustomed to their living standards and just look the other way to keep the status quo?

Do women look the other way when they are financially dependent upon a man? If so, why would a women ever allow herself become financially dependent upon a man - there's no escape exit.

She's just plain stuck. What a horrible existence in which to live. Women need a sound escape plan.

I think that's the differnce between gay men and women - gay men always have an escape plan. Perhaps our straight sisters can learn from their gay brothers.

...and striaght women need to take another cue from their gay brothers - no man is worth the pain and heartache. Go, set yourself free li'l woman and don't ever look back - and make sure you get a good lawyer and rake him over the coals - the bastard!

...and now, a touching video tribute for all of my straight sisters who've ever been in pain because of a lousy man (...you too li'l gay brothers!):

Kleerup feat Robyn - With every heartbeat


The lump-in-your-throat version:

Kleerup feat Robyn - With every heartbeat (accoustic version)

You are 100% correct, Rick. We ARE pigs. I am open and honest about my life, though some may be offended, but I am no hypocrite. As BB King said in a song, "I did what I did before love came to town". I make no apologies. I would venture to say damn near every woman I dated would say we had fun and that I was a nice guy. OK, there was one, but she had issues - and I paid for her early flight home.

I never wanted to get married again. I was having a hell of great time out there. I met Ms. Mickey and I fought it. Once I made the decision to hang up my guns, I did. I have no regrets about my life before or since Ms. Mickey. Point is, I had the choice, as all men do. I made the decision knowing full well what it meant and I have honored that and I haven't regretted it. Sanford, Vitter, Ensign, pick one, knew full well they'd have opportunities laying at their feet (or feets if you are from Auburn, Alabama). They decided to try to have their cake and eat it too. You can't do it long term. As pigs we either have to stay away or stay at the trough.

Beats me. I can tell you Ms. Mickey would "Bobbit" me in hot second! We have a very workable understanding - "It doesn't matter where you get your appetite as long as you eat at home." We don't get jealous, but there is a line that cannot be crossed. Having said that, I can promise you she knows the danger signs. I have avoided situations and people and so has she. It is a commitment you make, but the situations and people are always out there. How Ms. Sanford missed it is beyond me.


I've wondered the same thing. Women are a hell of a lot smarter than men. We may have similar intellectual capacity, but we have two heads and often it isn't the big one that's doing the thought processing.

I happen to be an assman (me and Cosmo Kramer) and I can tell you for a fact that you could be standing in a dark room with no light at zero dark thirty in the morning staring in the direction of a lady's butt in front of you and she'd know it! Women always know if you even glance toward their chest. You could be a mile away looking through a telescope and they'd look at you and wave their finger back and forth. How then does a woman not know her politically powerful, wealthy, nice looking husband is involved in a squeeze play on the cheating side of town?


A close friend of mine, a psychiatrist, once told me that the only men who don't cheat are men who don't have the opportunity! I was divorced at the time and at that point I didn't give a damn one way or the other. I've since brought the subject up over cigars and port. He maintains there are exceptions to every rule. He says he is an exception. I am as well, I told him. He said, "Yes, but we have learned to avoid the opportunities!"

That's the key, isn't it Mickey? A real man will avoid opportunities.

Thanks for your awesome posts and your honesty!!!!!!


Love you man!

{{hugs}}

I think so. It is certainly no different in the gay community. I have gay friends who are committed to their partners. Same thing. No difference. If you want a life long commitment you decide where and how you want to be happy and you stick with it. You stay the hell away from people and places that look like big red flags. Sanford isn't a moron, he knows this.

By the way, I did see on another board -

"As a congressman, Sanford voted in favor of three of four articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, citing the need for "moral legitimacy."

Oh those moral and righteous Republicans, pure as the driven snow. Jesus! Do Democrats get involved in this kind of thing? Oh, sure. You feckin A betcha! The difference is that most Democrats don't set themselves up as the arbiters of morality in America. Democrats are not drinking Christiban Kool-Aid and pontificating about family values and the wages of sin. The Republicans have staked their claim and raised their flag on that particular dung heap. They own it! They can't walk the talk and their legacy of lies isn't the only thing biting them on the ass.

Slipped, all I can say is that I was a moderately successful musician in my younger years, in a moderately successful regional band, and my wife gets a lot of glee from poking me in the chest and saying that she "won't be surprised if we get a knock at the door and we're staring a younger "Jeffery Jr." who says 'Hi Dad!'"

I too, "did what I did before love came to town".

I've told my wife that although she rocks my world, I haven't gone blind.
But the menu is only for looking at and not for ordering, and I've simply figured out a way to "sublimate" my animal tendencies into ad hoc scripts for later domestic dalliances.

I hope the preceding gobbledygook made some sense to someone.

Washington is a rock star town.
Politicians are the rock stars, that's the only difference, and it's barely quantifiable because the roles are starkly similar and the drug is much more powerful than the best crack cocaine money can buy.

That drug is POWER.
You show me a woman who can resist the drug called POWER and I'll show you a corpse. Add money and suddenly you're remembering Alec Baldwin's line in the Hulu commercial:

"I mean, whaddya gonna do, turn off your TV AND your computer?
HA~!"

"Oops...I think I'm drooling a little!"

Spot on Mickey


It did Jeff.


...seems that piggery swings both ways:

Martina Navratilova sued for millions by 'wife' after being 'dumped without warning'

Makes sense to me. Every day from my third story office windows I see a lady with an absolutely perfect body walk outside to take a cigarette break. Everyday I look. When on the odd day that we are on the elevator together all I say is "Hi, how's it going?" Don't know her name, where she works, what floor or where she got that magnificent derrière and I don't want to know. As long as I don't know any of that I can still keep looking everyday. That works for me.