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I remind you of Nancy Pelosi's "impeachment is off the table". Obama appears to want to continue some of the questionable practices of Bush and Cheney Let's agree that there may be a case to be made that Bush administration did things which were unconstitutional. Possibly even things that might justify impeachment. I was arguing a narrower point which you did not address. Use of the word traitor carries with it certain meanings that are even beyond what is required for impeachment. But, perhaps this is what we are talking about At times, the term "traitor" has been levelled as a political epithet, regardless of any verifiable treasonable action. In a civil war or insurrection, the winners may deem the losers to be traitors. Likewise the term "traitor" is used in heated political discussion – typically as a slur against political dissidents, or against officials in power who are perceived as failing to act in the best interest of their constituents. In certain cases the accusation of treason towards a large group of people can be a unifying political message.
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"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
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Just curious...
setting aside our view of their actions and decisions... where is the evidence that they were intentionally acting against national interests?
I think it is profoundly important that some one who is to be labeled as a traitor should consciously have acted in a manner that regards national interest and serves only his own.... as for example Nixon. Ardy, I did not label anyone a traitor. And, if I were to use the word, I would state how I was using it -- in the legal sense or in the general sense. Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Ardy, I did not label anyone a traitor. And, if I were to use the word, I would state how I was using it -- in the legal sense or in the general sense.
Yours,
Issodhos Sorry if I gave the impression this was directed at you.... I was generally responding to the listed title of the thread topic.
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
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Ardy, I did not label anyone a traitor. And, if I were to use the word, I would state how I was using it -- in the legal sense or in the general sense.
Yours,
Issodhos Sorry if I gave the impression this was directed at you.... I was generally responding to the listed title of the thread topic. Ten fer.:-) Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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