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Americans tend to be so defensive when confronted with culture. It is an indication that, on some level, they understand that they are lacking in this regard. This defensiveness explains the surprising number of firearms at Lincoln Center. Heck, I've noticed the same thing right here at Opera Omaha.
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Ya know, I used to hear this stuff when I worked for Russian-American TV. The Russkies would grumble and snort "Amerikka not have any culture!"
It's a stuffy, elitist sort of argument that attempts to narrowly define what constitutes culture itself in the first place, and then when anything outside it's tiny sphere intrudes, the reaction is to narrow the circle further in an attempt to exclude more. Well, culture is very important to Russians. It is true that the worship of culture can degenerate into snobbism, but this is true only of people with baser characters. True culture expands one's horizons; it does not narrow them. Americans tend to be so defensive when confronted with culture. It is an indication that, on some level, they understand that they are lacking in this regard. . The Russians have an eight hundred year head start, so I grant them their lead graciously. The Euros on the other hand, have had opportunity after opportunity to plant their seed here, but instead of letting it bloom and flourish they opted to treat America as the redheaded stepchild, so America told Europe to stick it where the sun don't shine. But in any case, whether it's a sandy haired Van Cliburn wowing the crowds in the heart of Vienna while doing "cover tunes" or a boisterous Leon Russell holding a tent revival in Japan to a sold out house with his wholly original compositions, or an Ed Ruscha painting hanging in a revered spot at the Centre Georges Pompidou, or a Frank Lloyd Wright craftsman home holding its stateliness in Illinois, one thing is certain, the culture wars will never be won so it makes more sense to fraternize with the enemy instead of ridiculing the opposition. Great things always come of such illicit affairs.
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Paul McCartney once said that there would have been no Beatles if there hadn't first been Crickets, referring, of course, to Buddy Holly and the Crickets. Say it isn't so! I thought he was referring to the bea insects. 
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i always felt the british lacked an overall creativity in their food. It has been said that every country has bad cooking, but only the British specialize in it. And there is the old joke: "Heaven is where: the police are English, the cooks are French, the lovers Italian, the mechanics German, and the whole place is run by the Swiss. Hell is where: the police are German, the cooks are English, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, and the whole place is run by the Italians."In fairness, it must be said that British cooking has improved to an amazing extent in recent decades. And English breakfasts have always been great; the very best part of their traditional cooking. They are the foundation of the wonderful breakfasts you find in the American South. .
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It is true that the worship of culture can degenerate into snobbism, but this is true only of people with baser characters. True culture expands one's horizons; it does not narrow them. Alas. We've tried so hard and still you refuse to expand. 
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"You cannot truly appreciate Shakespeare until you've heard it in the original Klingon." Well, I have studied the pronuciation of English in Shakespeare's time. It is quite different from both American English and modern Received Pronuciation in Britain. It does deepen one's appreciation of Shakespeare to hear it as he would have spoken it. I find it as disagreeable to listen to the language of modern English Shakespearean actors as to hear Americans mangle the language. [The horror of listening to Charleton Heston attempting to act in Julius Caesar I shall never, never forget!]PS: Schlack, of all modern English dialects, Irish English comes closest to Shakespeare's language. Cromwell and all those other Tudor and Stuart invaders, you know. SWISH! Hand passing over head? 
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"You cannot truly appreciate Shakespeare until you've heard it in the original Klingon." Well, I have studied the pronuciation of English in Shakespeare's time. It is quite different from both American English and modern Received Pronuciation in Britain. It does deepen one's appreciation of Shakespeare to hear it as he would have spoken it. I find it as disagreeable to listen to the language of modern English Shakespearean actors as to hear Americans mangle the language. [The horror of listening to Charleton Heston attempting to act in Julius Caesar I shall never, never forget!]PS: Schlack, of all modern English dialects, Irish English comes closest to Shakespeare's language. Cromwell and all those other Tudor and Stuart invaders, you know.  man, nu-man, now you're pushing the envelope. well, i'll agree that anything heston did was awful, but i sure as hell would love to hear those old english recordings you have. must be fun to listen to a dialect so old. i'll be there is all that wonderful scratchy.
sure, you can talk to god, but if you don't listen then what's the use? so, onward through the fog!
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PS: Schlack, of all modern English dialects, Irish English comes closest to Shakespeare's language. Cromwell and all those other Tudor and Stuart invaders, you know.  My British friend (who lives in northern England and sounds Scottish to me) says my accent (I was born and raised in the south) is the closest to what she thinks of as an American accent. Numan, you wouldn't last a minute in my small town full of musicians and artists of all kinds. We're terribly uncouth. Ask the surrounding counties.  Judging art is so subjective. I don't really understand this whole conversation. But then I've been out of town and haven't read every single post.
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Minneapolis, Minnesota. Art, music, sculpture, clean water, clean air, pretty girls, great schools, great food, great health care and hardly a condescending note in the whole cacaphony of culture to be found.
With Minneapolis and San Francisco we have a couple of very nice European cities, stocked with culturally savvy American, of course.
Oh, and a very well known American bard that even the Russians respect, named BOB DYLAN.
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"I believe very deeply that compassion is the route not only for the evolution of the full human being, but for the very survival of the human race." —The Dalai Lama
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