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But...marching bands aren't distinctly American in origin

That’s true, but their style and performance art (they must be seen as well as heard) is distinctly American having influences that begin in jazz and head off from there. They are not your mothers marching band.







Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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You got here with that info first, Chuck. I was going to offer that up.

Speaking of preaching and art...

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Speaking of Bob Dylan, he was in the news recently...

New Jersey Homeowner Calls Cops on Bob Dylan
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"He was really nice, though, and he said he understood why I had to verify his identity and why I couldn't let him go," Buble said. "He asked me if I could drive him back to the neighborhood when I verified who he was, which made me even more suspicious.

"I pulled into the parking lot," she said, "and sure enough there were these enormous tour buses, and I thought, 'Whoa.'"

Her sergeant met her at the hotel parking lot.

"I got out of my car and said, "Sarg, this guy says he's Bob Dylan,'" Buble said. "He opened the car door, looked in, and said, 'That's not Bob Dylan.'"

"So we go over to the tour bus and knock on the door and some guy answers and I say, 'Are you missing someone?'"

"Who's asking?'' came the reply, according to Buble.

"I was in full uniform, so I say, 'I'm asking! I'm the police.'"

Eventually, the police were shown Dylan's passport, which Buble said she looked at, saw the legend's name, and rather sheepishly handed it back to Dylan's manager.

I don't know that much about Bob Dylan the person but that doesn't sound very morose and whiny to me.

I have to say, numan, though I often agree with you politically, I find your constant put downs of Americans to be very much as you described Bob Dylan's demeanor (which may be for all I know...I just don't know that).
I truly don't understand why you want to hang out with us.



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Dylan doesn't look like the image we all think of, that's for sure - but it's been a long road with some rough miles.

I try to keep the artist separate from the person. On Dylan's radio show he has a wry sense of humor and is very good at poking fun of all kinds of things.


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I have to admit I don't keep the artist and the person apart usually especially if it's stuff I really really like.
Then I go look at what their life and interests are. Their political beliefs if they are known. Their activism, etc.

Maybe I'm a snob but I have a hard time supporting art or music from somebody I have fundamental moral differences with.



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Originally Posted by Chuck Howard
"IPA" stands for India Pale Ale, which is a style of ale known for its distinct "hoppiness." It's certainly my favorite.

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chuck, nu-man is above that sort of thing. american micro brewery is too, well, american.

Once again, your judgment about me is in error, as is also your notion about micro-breweries. It is, perhaps, an example of the inward-looking self-absorption of the American character to imagine that micro-breweries are an exclusively American phenomenon.

On those rare occasions when I quaff beer, I enjoy it very much, though it must, of course, adhere to the deutsche Reinheitsgebot, --- the German Purity Law. No contamination by North American commercial additives, please!

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man, nu-man, now you're pushing the envelope. well, i'll agree that anything heston did was awful, but i sure as hell would love to hear those old english recordings you have. must be fun to listen to a dialect so old.

Why would I bother with recordings? I recite Shakespeare to myself aloud. I want the poetry to which I listen to be of the highest quality.

There is one recording to which I do listen --- over and over. It is a recording of the poetry of Percy Bysshe Shelley. It is recited by, of all people, Vincent Price! He was a much more cultivated man than most people realize. I have never heard Shelley better read. It is on the old Caedmon label, and if you get a chance to hear it, do so! It will probably change your view of Shelley's poetry forever!

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Numan, inward looking is not all bad. you should try it sometime.


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Originally Posted by numan
Why would I bother with recordings? I recite Shakespeare to myself aloud. I want the poetry to which I listen to be of the highest quality.
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Ok, that was truly cute, numan.

I like our vinyl. I know you're talking about a different thing but music of old sounds better with the imperfections.
Depends on your definition of "quality" I guess though. wink



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Originally Posted by Chuck Howard
"IPA" stands for India Pale Ale, which is a style of ale known for its distinct "hoppiness." It's certainly my favorite.

Originally Posted by 2wins
chuck, nu-man is above that sort of thing. american micro brewery is too, well, american.

Once again, your judgment about me is in error, as is also your notion about micro-breweries. It is, perhaps, an example of the inward-looking self-absorption of the American character to imagine that micro-breweries are an exclusively American phenomenon.

On those rare occasions when I quaff beer, I enjoy it very much, though it must, of course, adhere to the deutsche Reinheitsgebot, --- the German Purity Law. No contamination by North American commercial additives, please!

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yes, yes. im quite familiar with german purity laws and all that. and of course american micro breweries are not exclusively american. you miss my point and as phil suggests, perhaps a little introspection on your part and a review of your positions might do you some good. after all, you are beginning to contradict yourself.


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