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Originally Posted by numan
A very able mathematician-physicist friend of mine estimated that CD's would need to contain 3 to 5 times the quantity of information as they do in order to begin to compete with audiophile-quality analogue LP's.

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---For about ten plays.
Vinyl wears out.

And optical discs are not the only way to distribute digital media. Therefore all you need is a high enough bit rate and enough bit depth.

It's the same with video...I constantly hear people prattle on about film being better than digital, that they can tell when someone is projecting film, and that there is no way a digital projector and digital video can outperform film.

It's a tough challenge, but allow me to borrow a 6K Christie digital projector, let me choose the file format and let me choose what to shoot the project on.

I choose the RED One Digital Cine camera with Cooke lenses
and the RAW R3D output. I will post in Vegas and output to
a Sony SRW-5800 HDCAM SR VTR.

You won't be able to tell, even if you're four feet from the screen.

That's when they start talking about the romantic feel of "gate weave" and "grain". I can insert gate weave and grain if you want, and even a little gaussian blur.

And in reality I could get away with 4K or even 2K and if you're
more than ten feet from the screen there's no physical way your rod and cone cells in your eyeballs could discern the difference.

And nothing can match the contrast ratio of a good Christie data projector, or even a good JVC D-ILA model for that matter.

At 880 MB/sec, 440 or even 135 you won't be able to see ANY digital artifacting. I can't help it the DVD industry settled on
10 MB/sec for SD and 40 MB/sec for Blu-Ray disc.


But I bet most folks wouldn't be able to tell even at 20 MB/sec
on a 1080P screen.

I can't help it the CD industry settled on their meager specs either. It was all about squeezing the most money out of the least number of bits and bytes.


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Shallow bit rate and bit depth destroyed the musical and visual world too, but that doesn't mean that the bits aren't there in the original. They just got compressed is all.

Sorta like our national consciousness.

But there are some originals out there that defy "compression".


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It matters because the shallow people are destroying the Earth.
But most, if not all, the good people on this board are not destroying the Earth. If this is a major concern of yours...and non-destruction of the Earth is certainly worthy of one's attention...why are you wasting your time here, when you could be using it far more productively?

A good bunch of us Ranters are intelligent, peace-loving, tree-hugging types. I'm sure there are many, many boards that are populated by those you refer to as shallow. Or at least they're substantially more shallow than we are. Why not use your time productively to spread your wisdom and concerns there?


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Originally Posted by numan
Originally Posted by numan
Meanwhile, back in the world of High Culture, which alone makes life worth living....

Those who live in the lowlands may think that art is merely a matter of taste, and mock the distant mountains which they have never seen.

But those who have wandered, however briefly, among the towering peaks of Great Art, can never again be satisfied with the Cities of the Plain.

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nu-man, your mistake is thinking that those who enjoy the lowlands haven't lived high in the mountains.


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Don’t you think this stuff from Numan is all a joke and a put on? I do—could be wrong as I have been away from the board for awhile, but I think ol Numan is having quite a laugh getting everyone’s shorts in a knot. Could be wrong—but………….


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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I think so, Ken. That's why I mostly just watch lately.

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But that would be part of the fun in being a Ranter.
If you can't have a good time getting everyone's shorts in a knot once in a while, what's the point?

My only requirement is that the effort be at least somewhat original. Otherwise, if I want to get my shorts in a knot the CHEAP WAY there's always the endless parade of hysterical right wing political emails that certain friends and family members send to me almost every day, most of them repeat performances from five years ago.

So, even though Numan is having a good laugh by appearing to be an effete snob who holds his Earl Grey with one pinky extended, I figure he lets his hair down once in a while with a good episode of "My Name is Earl".

He just would never dream of telling anybody.
Me? My guilty pleasure is "Big Love" and old episodes of "Roseanne", both of which qualify as high culture for me.

And my wife and I raise our family pretty much the way the Conner family does, with a little less junk food.
We're almost like the Conners, but maybe a little more politically aware.


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But that would be part of the fun in being a Ranter.
If you can't have a good time getting everyone's shorts in a knot once in a while, what's the point?

Guess you're right, CS. But I have trouble censoring myself, so better to watch sometimes.

My children's cousin is in Big Love. Chloe Sevigny. She's my late ex-husband's niece.


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Originally Posted by numan
Originally Posted by olyve
Haven't you ever just wanted to dance in the streets, man?
Maybe even in the rain?
Maybe even naked?
Be stupid and spontaneous?

I wonder why you think that dancing in the streets is antithetical to High Culture?

And stupidity and spontaneousness are often very important to the creative process --- just so long as the stupidity does not become excessive, as it does in certain nations which shall be nameless, but which ye wot well.

Originally Posted by olyve
What makes one person shallow and another deep?

Ah, that is a deep question! And it would require a deep analysis on another thread.

Originally Posted by olyve
Why does it matter?

It matters because the shallow people are destroying the Earth.

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Good points, numan except the part about me being a participant in destroying the earth. I'm not. cool
I'm shallow but I'm a good steward of this earth in my own meager way.



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Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler
But that would be part of the fun in being a Ranter.
If you can't have a good time getting everyone's shorts in a knot once in a while, what's the point?

My only requirement is that the effort be at least somewhat original. Otherwise, if I want to get my shorts in a knot the CHEAP WAY there's always the endless parade of hysterical right wing political emails that certain friends and family members send to me almost every day, most of them repeat performances from five years ago.

So, even though Numan is having a good laugh by appearing to be an effete snob who holds his Earl Grey with one pinky extended, I figure he lets his hair down once in a while with a good episode of "My Name is Earl".

He just would never dream of telling anybody.
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Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler
---For about ten plays.
Vinyl wears out.
CS, Mr O has had at least half his collection for more than 40 years and it all sounds great.
Much of the other half was purchased from people who bought theirs 30/40 years ago.
Vinyl is wonderful and sounds great if you take care of it.
I'm not as technologically knowledgeable as you are (duh) but I'd much rather listen to our albums than CDs.
Plus we have a lot of fun crawling around in old used sections of music stores looking for cool stuff.



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