Originally Posted by Ardy
Originally Posted by AustinRanter
I can't bitch and moan enough about corporate influence over our government,

You know... I also wish that wish that corporations were not so big and powerful. I also wish that we could generate all our electricity with cold fusion... and that we could fuel our cars with ocean water.

Lets suppose for the moment that we close down all the coporations by devree... how does that work? WHo do we buy our galsoline form? Where do we buy our groceries? Who makes the cars and airplanes. Who runs the airlines and railroads?

Or, maybe the point is that of course we will still have corporations... we just should not bail them out?

Or maybe the point is that we should have corporations, but they should have no political influience.... ?

Don't get me wrong, I am not in love with corporations... but the cows have left the barn, the barn has burned down, the land has been sold a,d subdividesd, and a walmart hasd been built. If you want to get the cows back in the barn, it will be a rather long slog IMO.

Ardy...

This isn't about the rights of corporations to exist to provide necessary goods and services. Its about the right of the people to be in control of government...not corporatons/lobbyists. Its about having a government for and by the people. That's absolutely not the case today. Evidence flows from endless resources. Column after column, day after day, we see how corporations are buying out our elected officials.

The health care industry will let you die...or suffer because you might not have enough money to live Who do you think is preventing genuine health care reform?

What is wrong with public "only" finance of the election process? What's wrong with preventing lobbyists from inundating our elected officials to override the voice of the people, but support any cause...moral or not, for the general welfare of our nation...or not? These people don't give a damn about who they take their money from and who that money is shared with as long as it benefits the interest paying out big money to have an advantage over everyday citizens.

Should Corporations have influence in our government? That's not my bitch. Corporations shouldn't run our government! They do run our government as we speak and I don't know how that can be denied by any person who is in touch with current day events. Corporations shouldn't have more influence in order to create special rules to live by that the every day citizen doesn't get to take advantage of. We don't even get EQUAL rights in many cases.

The people are being pushed out of their role in the system. The people serve as virtually the 4th branch of government to maintain check and balance and to assure government doesn't rob us all of our freedoms and liberty.

Corporations are not only buying our government, but our media and press, which by the Constitution...should serve as our gardians of freedom...but that's coming to an end because free press isn't profitable to these corporations.

Obama...PROMISED, PROMISED that one of his first priorties of business was to significantly reduce the influence of Corp/Lobbyists. They've grown even more powerful. Why? Because he owes his soul to the company store!

Im sorry, Ardy...if I have to give up any of my rights and freedoms, I don't want to do it because they're no longer profitable to some corporations. That's what we're facing.

It's The System, Stupid...by Doug Thompson...check it out...see if it makes sense... Ardy...please know that the title of the article is not intended to be a slur against you. It does contain some viable points.


Last edited by AustinRanter; 10/08/09 02:00 AM. Reason: added source at bottom of posting
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