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yeah, but isn't the rest of the story law suit, phil? i mean, wouldn't you sue the driver's insurance company with the help of mike the hammer personal insurance attorney? 
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No argument on your point from here. But when the ER is open, the realities are that we cover the cost of those who are treated and can't or won't pay the bill.
A change that is long overdue is moving the ER entrance off the street to some place inside the building, with a "clinic" at the outer door. Then the true life-and-death cases get transferred on to the ER and we end up with this mandated treatment payment problem only for those cases. The trip to the ER that isn't life threatening but occurs because the clinics are all closed get dealt with in some other manner but don't get funded as emergency care.
Have never heard a good reason why this change is resisted. It comes down to labels on doors and reception desks.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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yeah, but isn't the rest of the story law suit, phil? i mean, wouldn't you sue the driver's insurance company with the help of mike the hammer personal insurance attorney? though I don't necessarily disagree with you, Harvey, but as the instigator of this thread, you really didn't give any direction you wanted it go or your own comments to add. I think what is being discussed here is how expensive, awkward, inefficient and just plain unworkable the system we have in place is versus socialized medicine even considering that incident you post about...even with all it's warts. I don't really think all that suing is going on in other countries that do have socialized medicine. Define the conversation you want, Harv. That would be helpful.
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I'm happy to discuss the original article. How much did Bethany Dibbs' family pay for their, apparently, excellent medical care, and follow up treatment? (Of course, the point rupert made earlier about the distinction between socialized medicine (something not even being debated in Congress) and work rules remains valid.) How did we end up discussing oranges instead of apples?
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Now-a-days, uncollected medical bills get "bought" by collection agencies from the doctor for pennies on the dollar - then, these collection agency's turn around, and collect the full amount, plus a collection fee, owed to the doctor from the debtor and keep the full amount for themselves. Said collection agency even report the collection on the debtor's credit report.
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