Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Climate Change and Environmental Issues Thank God for GW

Well tim, I am glad you are so self satisfied. But I know a bit about this as well. When even slight changes occur in the atmosphere, the climate undergoes wide and extreme swings. Not all areas undergo the same changes.

I do not know what movement yuo speak of, I have nothing to do with any movement, except the science of meteorology and climatology. You keep going to the well of politics, I am staying with science.

Whatever the cause, the changes to climate are observable by anyone who will look. Whether they are influenced by humans or just a natural cycle, history tells us that changes of the magnitude being experienced now destablizes climates everywhere.

You are the one who is in denial. The evidence is everywhere. Just look man, stop the political diatribe.

Let's set aside the models for the moment, and go back to the science that initiated the development of the model....


IE the chemical composition of the aptmosphere is being changed.
different chemicals have differnt physical properties.therefore one could resonably expect that changing the composition of th atmosphere will have an impact.

There is one thing that frustrates me about the Climate Change issue, when I was a wee tyke of ten years or so this region of Florida had its first hard freeze since 1896, there have been several since then, the Citrus Industry was destroyed and the Citrus Belt moved South. Since then we have not been able to grow papayas, avocados, mangos, and a variety of other fruits that once grew here including citrus. The frost line moved slightly south and dammit I wish if there were global warming taking place it would move just slightly north again.

Tim, no matter how devastating the worst case scenario of global warming might be you will never be able to grow coconuts in Massachusetts. Winter will always suck where you are.

Originally posted by MA Republican~


You mean like when The Bush Administration did the same thing(lied about WMDs) to force us to go to war in Iraq? I see your point more clearly now.

Let's be honest here, there might have been 5 people in the world who believed that Sadaam didn't have WMD. I have argued that I still believe that they are buried in the desert and I am willing, and I pray, that I will look like a tinfoil guy by believing it.

Revisionist history

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That is a real shame. I read an article about palm trees in NYC by the year 2000, that really got my hopes up. Then they screwed it all up by threatening anybody and anything that opposed them. All my hopes for Global Warming dashed against the rocks of reality.

Used to be I had made my deal with the winter devil. I used to ski and snowmobile all winter. Then the kids got too old to pack up, and my knees got too old to ski. So now I just look forward to retirement in a climate a little more temperate.

Still, is it all right to pray that Al Gore really does know what he is talking about? Is it OK for me to hope that I am wrong and that Global arming will someday transform Massachusetts into a tropical paradise?

Been a little busy, so didn't get to this 'til now. Actually, I thought the post may have been about the elder Bush.
With a limited lifespan, and so many other interesting things going on in the world, I've decided to leave the question of GW to the younger generation. Like abortion and religion, it seems that the first reading pretty much lays out the positions, and ain't no one left to convince.

This is a subject that I'll save for my later years. I have plans to do certain things to keep me going, like shuffleboard, and bingo, and euchre.

BTW, I seriously doubt that anything significant will occur in the next twenty years, to seriously curtail the problem. Costs too much money. Like Social Security, Healthcare, Pension Plans and the Federal Debt, who wants to fund programs that don't give money back to the people who'll be paying for them?

I suppose this is negative, but as I get closer to the ether, I'll leave it to greater minds to solve.

In the meantime, whatever happened to my cost of living increase in social security.

again, but...

Do-gooders haven't cornered the market on deception:



(Not just deception but most likely theft of taxpayers' money.)

Anyway, to get back on-topic...

Or global mean temperature. .

My point being that it is the pot calling the kettle black, when the right accuses the "Librul do-gooders" of using fear tactics to shove a policy/idea/whatever down the throats of the citizenry. So I think I was being honest-damn honest. More than some who