Capitol Hill Blue Forums Misc. Topics Ain't This America Stop wishing Rush Limbaugh dead

Is it wrong to wish freepers dead or should I just pray for the website to die?

I personally don’t wish the physical death of Limbaugh or other so-called political pundits. I do wish the death of Limbaugh’s (and others like him) abilities to manipulate, distort, and deceive his followers with his opinions disguised as facts or the truth without consequences. But for me to even have that wish would be considered by many as stepping on the principles of freedom of speech. In my opinion I do believe that Limbaugh and others in his business do make frequent commentaries, which are total lies cloaked as truth, that could seriously be construed as screaming out, “FIRE” in a theater.

The reality is that Limbaugh, Olbermann, Matthews, Beck, O’Reilly, etc…have become as much a part of the political squalor as the parties and corporations that control our pitiful excuse of a Republic form of government.

These broadcast demi-gods are anything but entertainers. To believe otherwise is being in denial about their substantial control over what information is or isn’t delivered to the millions of their devoted patrons on a daily basis. But, more importantly, they control “how information is disseminated”. They have the power to skew and/or rewrite the facts of events as they happen without retort. They reign over the dominion of opinion with millions of their followers who virtually cling to every word that crosses their lips as though they were divinely inspired. As these broadcast demi-gods’ popularity grows, so does their egos increase their beliefs that they are indeed gifted gods in their on right. They see themselves as champions of the little person…as long as the little person buys into their bullshit. What it all boils down to is that these so-called political pundits have come to believe that their opinions hold precedence over facts.

These broadcast demi-gods’ wield their power with a double edge sword. On one side of the sword, they generate mega-millions of income for the corporations that recognize their abilities to convince the common person that they have some supernatural ability to define social problems. As the saying goes, “whoever defines a problem may also hold the power to devise a solution”. On the other side of the sword, they stand ready to fulfill their self-proclaimed responsibilities to represent the voices of “We the People” who can’t otherwise be heard. They use their gift of bullshit, which of course is on loan from god, to exploit millions of the commoners who are on a pilgrimage for the search for truth to ease their fears.

Our political pundits have become the Pied Pipers of the election process. Politicians, corporation/lobbyists are drawn to their power of influence over the commoners and are desperate to tap into their talent of persuasion as a tool to publicize their propaganda of which they are more than willing to pay huge prices. These media pied pipers are becoming the surrogate minds of the electorates who are being psychically summoned to march in a trance like state to their respective polls and pull the levers as the pundits’ beckon.

Circumstance of birth has bestowed on these “pundits” the talent to attain the privilege, via modern day communication technology, to nationally engage in character assassination of persons who, for the most part, have no rights of acquiring a face-to-fact rebuttal. And should he or she (pundits) be confronted regarding any comments made that might shade their public image…they quickly declare their comments are nothing more than ordinary opinion. Again and again they escape the crucibles of accountability and decency.

Yes, each of us should scrutinize every printed or broadcasted word dumped on the public by media…and especially those published or spoken by so-called political pundits. Media and pundits hold little regard or respect for those who consume their services. Like politicians, pundits know that a large portion of this nation’s population have little aspiration, or in many cases, lack adequate abilities, to research facts and truths, which would decipher their perverse opinions or twisted facts. Like our politicians, they have become shameless and fearless.

Beautiful Rant, Gregg.

I also support your proposed amendment.

Separation of Corporation and State!

Repeal "Santa Clara County versus Southern Pacific Railroad"
Corporations are objects. Corporations are property.
They are not PERSONS in any respect or definition of the word.

AR...Some pent up opinionizing there. I agree, of course.

I suppose the thread could go on ad infinitum... I'd toss out one more thought. Just how far does corporate influence go. My guess is a lot further than we expect. In the beginning, I thought Roger Ailes, Rupert Murdoch. Now I suspect much more is involved, so I'll bury myself by going back to conspiracy, and the idea that there's a lot more behind the media, than just political partisanship.

There's much in the way of blah, blah... and personal political attacks on the sex and moral failures, but there seems to be a point at which it all stops. There is so much more going on in so many parts of the world of money, that we never, ever, hear about.

We never hear outrage at the failures of people in Government, or Corporations. Short of sexual misconduct, no one ever goes to jail. No one ever gets fired, except to deflect serious attacks against the big guy... the real perp.

Corporations are hardly ever found guilty... they just pay fines without admitting guilt. The leaders are insulated, despite being the ones who made the criminal decisions.

In the past year, all of the money that has gone to the banks, the CEO's, and those financial firms that were at the heart of the current economic problems... has been talked about, but nowhere has anyone in government... OR THE MEDIA... brought serious suit to the criminality of theses actions. We jail a 20 year old for stealing a car, but when hundreds of billions dollars are added to the public debt, in criminally obvious quid pro quo deals... The media (which obviously knows through the opinion pieces exposes that are clearly true) does not even begin to name names, or directly call for punitive action.

You can name your own well known and understood sins that never saw individuals go to jail. The Exxon Valdez, the tobacco companies, the missing billions in Iraq, the cost overruns in the Osprey, the Boeing tanker deal, the current Geithner/AIG bailout, and a thousand more earmark, and vote trading deals.

Name the sin... then ask why the media, in all of it's supposed investigative zeal... always stops before crucifying the Person or Corporation at fault.

The media relies on advertising. Simple as that.

A truth is a truth. When the Goldman Sachs story is exposed, there is outrage, but it never goes beyond that.

So it ends up as a game of politics. Posturing and heavy breathing and six people trying to talk at the same time on a radio or TV show. Noise and fury signifying nothing at all.

Between the Housing bubble, the failures to fund Social Security, or Medicare, or Government and Private Pensions, and the failures to regulate the banking industry... we have an unfunded debt that may double the current 13 trillion dollars... (put in your own guess as to the total). It's no one's fault, aside from the sturm und drang, there's no interest in fixing the problem, or finding the people who caused it.

It's called kicking the can down the road.

Let me get in there and and agree. Hell of a rant there, Austin. That rant needs to be passed around and read by many.

It's also called "stealing small or being a little bit crooked can get you the chamber or life behind bars but stealing huge, being a huge crook of unimaginable proportions and passing gigantic lies will get you anything you want"

It is precisely because of the things that you've outlined that there is no longer any respect, for the system, for learning, for morals, for the law, for civility itself.

And why should there be? There's clearly one set of each for one set of people and another for the rest of us.
And though it's always been that way to some extent, these days it is so out there, on such a gigantic scale, and so in your face that it dwarfs all historical comparison.

It is, quite simply, fuel for the coming fires, which will most likely engulf the entire world.

Sadly, I agree with every word, and those of it that preceded them. I fear that it is already too late to change that reality. I had hoped to spare my children the pain of revolution.

Not quite unprecedented, but close. The Ancien Régime of the later Louis' and Czarist Russia were unabashed about the separation between the absolute elite and, literally, everyone else. The bottom of society didn't deserve a first thought much less a second. What the masses thought about the opulent lives of the uppermost class was of as little import to the strutting rulers as what the floor thought about being walked across.

Less than two weeks after visiting death's door, Rush wants to spread his warm wishes and good will to the people of HAITI.

"We've already donated to Haiti, it's called US Income Tax."

In other news, not to be outdone by El Rushbo, televangelist
Pat Robertson took the time to tell America that Haitians deserve the earthquake because they made a deal with the devil.

I guess Pat believes that Haitians were so anxious to get out from under French rule that they were willing to make a deal with the devil, and they've been paying for it ever since.

So that must mean Pat Robertson thinks French SLAVE TRADING was...get ready for it:
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GOD'S WORK

You sure about that, Pat?