Can we, just for a moment, stop with the propaganda and deal with facts? We cannot just assume that the insurance companies are hiding billions, even if we believe it.
Um, sorry, my friend, but what part of that
wasn't fact? I was relying on information
provided by the insurance companies in public filings. Hard to dispute that as facts - I think your kettle is too black to properly assess the condition of the pot.
We cannot just assume that that money will get put back into the equation.
Well, let's see, does that relate to my argument? Hmmm.... no. What I am saying is, that health insurance companies
drain more than $6 billion annually from money spent for
health care in the United States. Personally, I think eliminating that from the equation is a good start, not that it is the be-all and end-all solution, but there is
no value added to healthcare services by their participation in the process.
Your ship has sailed and is out of sight. As of today it is either a bipartisan solution or nothing at all.
I may be talking policy, when you are talking politics, I grant you that. I don't believe the fight is over, and I think health care reform is still possible - well, maybe not, if the Supreme Court continues on its path toward fascism. I may agree that "Pelosi doen't have the votes to pass the Senate bill," although I may also not agree, and I would argue that a "bipartisan" solution is "nothing at all." The problem is that the Health
Insurance industry has won another round. They are "too big" for the US to succeed.
This is a very disapointing happening I am sure,
Boy you can say that as many times as you want.
but America doesn't want to change the current system
, well, there I think you are just totally wrong.
In Polls, Much Opposition to Health Care Plan Is From Left. In poll after poll more Americans prefer reform, than the status quo. You may be relying too much on corporate reporting regarding poll numbers. Actual analysis of the polls indicate more support for reform than Republicans allege (
Health-Care Reform Is Popular. But the Bill Isn't. , because there is opposition to
this particular bill, but only marginally. As Nate Silver points out, some of
that opposition comes from those who think it
doesn't go far enough. There has, however, been a concerted effort to
skew perception of polls, as well as just plain skewed polls, so I can understand the confusion.
What's Up With the Health Care Reform Polls? Now, I can agree that it will be very difficult to reach any kind of a reasonable compromise if the GOP is included in the negotiation of a solution. Indeed, the GOP strategy since before Obama's swearing in is opposition to every item on the agenda. Every time Democrats have sought compromise they have been screwed. I go back to my suggestion that if the Democrats want to win in 2010, and 2012, they need to pass the Senate bill, and move on to jobs. Opposition to health reform will dry up in 6 months, except among the party faithful.
