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I want to make clear that I am not discounting the entire contents. I think Alex Jones goes off into some very wooo woo tangents on a regular basis, but it's impossible to ignore some of the stuff he talks about, if for the very reason that he's often pulling it from factual accounts directly documented by the government itself.
When Congress passes a law with far reaching implications with little or no debate, and it's carried on C-SPAN and later spindled by the news media, Jones follows up.

So while I have to laugh about some of his stuff, I have been a regular listener for six years or more.

David Icke wants us to believe that we're being held hostage by actual REPTILES living inside human bodies, but when someone makes a reference to a person with a "reptilean brain", I do know exactly what they're talking about.
It's almost a mainstream reference nowadays.

The Georgia Guidestones are a real thing, with very unsettling suggestions...the person who built them wants to support a mass die-off resulting in a half billion population.
He says it's to relieve stress on Gaia, Mother Earth.
I say it's the elite's dream of just enough slaves to run the plantation.
Prince Phillip has said that he wants to die and come back as a global killer virus and kill billions of people.
The good Prince is pretty much a figurehead but he has way more wealth and power than you or I do, and way more influence.

I really do think that there will be a mass shock as facts about the effects of the gusher are revealed, and I've often stated right here on CHB that we're going to be witness to a large scale dead zone that dwarfs Chernobyl in size, scope and length of time before it can again support any kind of human habitation and even then, living there will be Hell On Earth, the kind of place where people might be exiled, perhaps.

I sure as Hell wouldn't be investing in any real estate down there, at least not residential. On the other hand, commercial space might be ideal if you don't mind selling it to the government later on.

I also recommend buying up companies that make wire fence and impermeable barriers.
I suspect that there will be a very pressing need for miles of it soon.

If the relief well fails, and it probably will, it should be very painfully obvious, by November, what the government has been trying to keep under wraps. It appears that BP may have loosed the Four Horsemen upon the world.
Let the Panic Begin...

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Bush Energy Adviser: Relief well will fail, 46 billion gallons could flow into Gulf[/b]

So now we need to take the advise of President Bush's Energy Advisor? Who, very oddly is in aggreement with former President Clinton.
From the looks of things the seabed from whence the oil issueth is not the sort of fuseable material that could be glassified into a proper plug for the well. It's a little more like ice which would simply melt out of the way when exposed to extreme heat and violence. That's the theory anyway and I reckon the best way to test it is to ignite a nuclear explosion over it.
If the theory is correct, the hole gets much bigger and the explosion ignites millions of tons of methane beneath the gulf.
Sort of like lighting a fart of bilical proportions.

BP was drilling for oil, they got oil, now collect it and sell it and let's get over all this nonsense of letting it spew into the Gulf.

Speaking of lighting farts of biblical proportions, did anyone notice that one of the owners of the planet has elected to visit the Colonies in The New World for the first time in fifty years?
And what timing, right on the heels of the BP Oil Volcano!

Now the Ka-weeyun can come to lay her rightful claim on "Amerikerr"
and all will be jolly good once again!

Uhhhh, are we bound by CHB guidlines when referring to Her Majesty?

By George, I think you've got it!

Gulf Oil Toxic Gas Risks to Humans 1
Gulf Oil Toxic Gas Risks to Humans 2
Gulf Oil Toxic Gas Risks to Humans 3

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I think you are right about the fragility of the sea bed. Here is a chart of the sea bed:



The oil bearing strata are the dark purple region at the bottom of the chart. None of the overlying regions are very sturdy.

There is methane in turbidite sands and in the oil itself, which is almost 40% methane. Fortunately for us, though not for the life in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico, little of the dissolved methane has yet reach the ocean surface. That may change, of course.

One of the most most worrying aspects of the situation are the persistent reports that the rather weak sea floor is fracturing and releasing more and more oil and methane. It is within the realm of possibilty that, at some point, there would be a major collapse of the overlying strata---and then all hell could break loose! Any hope of stopping the oil eruption would be gone, and massive amounts of methane might reach the surface. It would be an eruption that could cause tidal waves, but it would not be a fiery explosion---at least, until it reached the surface. There is not enough oxygen in the deep sea to support combustion.

Already, people near the eruption must wear respirators to protect themselves from benzine and other volatile compounds leaking into the atmosphere (see picture in the following link). These compounds already pose a risk to Southern inland regions in case of a storm or hurricane sweeping them into the interior. In the case of a major sea floor collapse, the danger would become extreme.

Here is a link to an unsensational interview with a geologist involved in studying the situation:

[b]BP's Gulf Crude Oil Nearly 40% Methane - Will Huge Dead Zone Follow?[/b]


P.S. Though unfortunately widespread, the phrase "from whence" is very unpleasant, since "whence" already means "from where," and so the phrase is plainly redundant.

Thanks, I hadn't really thought of that. It wasn't meant to be grammatically correct, in any case, as "issueth" isn't a word I'd choose to use without parking my tongue in my cheek beforehand. Archaic words are kind of fun but, I agree, they work best when used properly. "...whence comes the oil" would have been far better.

Even at that depth, in the event of a nucular explosion, is it possible that all bets are off on whether residual Methane in the sea bottom would or would not ignite? I only flirted briefly with higher education, and that as an art major, so all this is so far over my head that I really have no business even discussing it.

It seems that dead zones are probably a given. I don't think fish can breath methane any better than we can.

The world has gone mad. In a little touch of "free market insanity" a private landfill in Mississippi has made a deal with the devil and agreed to allow BP to dump its waste there. So far BP has dumped 150 tons of the toxic in the Mississippi landfill. Anything for a buck, eh?

Fast forward 3 to 5 years: "Mississippi discovers toxic waste in private landfill contaminating water. Landfill owner says he's sorry. BP, no response."