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Here's my attempt at putting a fine point on what's happening. As usuual, over simplified:

It was IBM punch cards that started me on this, and was followed by a "race" that I had with the fastest comptometer operator in our office in 1969 or 1970... I had the first Casio Handheld LED calculator. Won by a mile.

I then took over preparing budgets for 187 stores... A project usually handled by 5 girls in the accounting department, and usually taking about two weeks on the old spinning numbers electronic calculators. I completed the project alone, in 7 days using my casio.

Long and short?... Productivity.

Productivity... could work two ways.

#1. Reducing the Work week hours. Pay workers the same.

#2. Maintain work week hours, lay off excess workers, profits go to owners.

Simple.

(Casio at the time... $700 discounted to $499... No Kidding)

Bob,

Clearly remember the days in which you speak. I use to use a comptometer to recap the numbers for rather complex bids.

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Had I a casio at the time...hmmm, if they existed, I'd probably been put out of a job. There were several in my department that did what I did, but I was on the bottom of the seniority list.

Your comments about the Casio...it reminds me of seeing Gerald Ford's wife, Betty, give him a new gadget...a digital watch by Pulsar. At the time they sold for 2500.00. Now, a mere $1.25 on sale dunce


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Central banks start to abandon the U.S. dollar

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...central banks have dropped their allocation to U.S. dollars by nearly a full percentage point to 57.3% from 58.1%, and calls this "unexpected given the global environment." She adds, "over time we anticipate that reserve managers may reduce their holdings further."

What is surprising is that the managers of those central banks aren't buying traditional fall-backs like the euro, the British pound or the Japanese yen. Instead, she suggests they're putting their faith in other dollars - the kind that come from Australia and Canada.

The dollar has been in free-fall since 2007....And just last week, the United Nations released a report concluding that the dollar should no longer be the world's reserve currency because it is not stable enough. The dollar is down 5% over the past month, and even currency traders don't see it as a safe haven any more.

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[b]Warning signals of a double-dip recession flash brightly across the world[/b]

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Global bond markets are flashing warning signals of a sharp slowdown in growth across the world and a possible slide toward a double-dip recession and outright deflation....The yield on two-year US Treasuries has fallen to a record low of 0.61pc in a flight to safety, a level not seen during the depths of the Great Depression....

Such levels are clearly incompatible with assumptions on Wall Street for 3pc growth in the second half of this year. “If the bond market is correct then this recovery could be dead in the water,” said Jim Reid, credit strategist at Deutsche Bank. The credit markets tend to sniff out trouble first and have acted as an early warning alert at every stage of the financial crisis over the past three years. Mr Reid said deflation has emerged as the dominant risk in the West and will force central banks to renew quantitative easing, the Americans “pre-emptively” and the Europeans “only when their backs are against the world”.

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This growing supply of lender-owned properties could set back the nation's housing recovery but probably won't sink it completely if the nation's employment situation doesn't deteriorate further and the economy begins to pick up steam, experts said. Sales of homes have faltered nationally in recent months with the expiration of government tax incentives for buyers.

U.S. bank repossessions increased 38% in the second quarter from the same period a year earlier for a record total of 269,952, according to Irvine research firm RealtyTrac. That was also a jump of 5% from the previous quarter. If that pace continues through the year, the number of homes taken by banks is likely to top 1 million by the end of 2010, said Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac senior vice president.This growing supply of lender-owned properties could set back the nation's housing recovery but probably won't sink it completely if the nation's employment situation doesn't deteriorate further and the economy begins to pick up steam, experts said. Sales of homes have faltered nationally in recent months with the expiration of government tax incentives for buyers.

U.S. bank repossessions increased 38% in the second quarter from the same period a year earlier for a record total of 269,952, according to Irvine research firm RealtyTrac. That was also a jump of 5% from the previous quarter. If that pace continues through the year, the number of homes taken by banks is likely to top 1 million by the end of 2010, said Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac senior vice president.
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Reality Check

I think this article belongs here.
It's very wise, and brings together:

The Republican "trickle down"
The Democratic "create jobs"
The continued Bank stranglehold
The long term lower job levels
The need for safety nets

Unless and until there is a recognition of the macro, The "solutions" will come piecemeal, and will likely be doomed to failure.

I don't know if there is anyone in government with enough vision to skip the politics and offer a comprehensive resolution. Moving five years ahead, will we be a third rate nation, looking back to denounce the greed and intransigence of egoistic leaders, lost in their own tiny worlds?

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Or alternatively, admit that full employment is no longer plausible, so we will build a strong social contract -- of training, guaranteed income, health care -- for those discarded from the workforce. Let's have the debate -- for the one choice that is socially ruinous is the one we seem to be drifting towards -- mass unemployment without a safety net.


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Reality Check

I think this article belongs here.
It's very wise, and brings together:

The Republican "trickle down"
The Democratic "create jobs"
The continued Bank stranglehold
The long term lower job levels
The need for safety nets

Unless and until there is a recognition of the macro, The "solutions" will come piecemeal, and will likely be doomed to failure.

I don't know if there is anyone in government with enough vision to skip the politics and offer a comprehensive resolution. Moving five years ahead, will we be a third rate nation, looking back to denounce the greed and intransigence of egoistic leaders, lost in their own tiny worlds?

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Or alternatively, admit that full employment is no longer plausible, so we will build a strong social contract -- of training, guaranteed income, health care -- for those discarded from the workforce. Let's have the debate -- for the one choice that is socially ruinous is the one we seem to be drifting towards -- mass unemployment without a safety net.

Bob, I don't believe there is anyone in Gov with a degree of integrity muchless vision.

Imagine the the possible state of our nation without the burdens of the following:

On July 27, the U.S. Congress approved US$37 billion in funding for President Obama’s troop increase in Afghanistan. It took the Democrat-controlled Congress six months to pass the funding for the 30,000 extra troops being sent to Afghanistan. Additionally, the bill covers some expenses in Iraq and provides nearly US$4 billion for a related increase in economic aid to Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan. The US$37 billion is in addition to the approximately US$130 billion Congress has already approved for Afghanistan and Iraq for 2010. Congress has approved more than US$1 trillion for the two operations since 2001. Link

Oh wait, I forgot, we've moved from an "oil" economy to a "war" economy. If the MIC's products and services were significantly reduced, our already fragile ecomony would most likely collapse here along with a few other major nations.


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Bob,

Sorry, my prior post was a jump out of the circle of your previous post.

An interesting article in the Economist:

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America has underinvested in the public goods that support job growth

Is America Facing an Increase in Structural Unemployment?

What say Ye?


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Or alternatively, admit that full employment is no longer plausible, so we will build a strong social contract -- of training, guaranteed income, health care -- for those discarded from the workforce. Let's have the debate -- for the one choice that is socially ruinous is the one we seem to be drifting towards -- mass unemployment without a safety net.

There are many reasons for most observed phenomena. IMO a big reason for this situation is that we have decided to outsource huge swaths of our economy. That all works out well for corproations... their profits swell. It is also nice for us since we can buy cheep products at WalMart.

It all seems wonderful in a bubble economy since there are lots of jobs... and the displaced workers have other jobs available. But when the bubble pops.... those jobs disappear... and the outsourced jobs are a distant memory



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For those who follow this "stuff", some words on the "replacement bubble"... Municipal Bonds.

Has to do with how the banks recovered so quickly...and how the hopes for recovery in the economy may be being pushed back, maybe for years.
Son of Subprime

To oversimplify... it's insuring then re-insuring municipal loans, taking the fees and overvaluing the securities... passing them off to investors, and walking away, leaving the investors holding the bag. The investors are YOU.

The new financial regulations, if they are ever passed, will do nothing to stop this. The Banks and their lobbyists have seen to that.

If you have children and want them to grow up financially secure, direct them towards the banking industry. It looks to be in control of the US for at least another decade, after which the bankers will all be living in Dubai.

Actually, except for moments of sheer terror, this stuff is quite boring. eek



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if you’re a Wall Street bank and you engineer a “synthetic rate swap” deal.


Bob,

Just when we think that there is no higher level of insanity - or dishonesty...KABOOM.

Woe on all current and future penison participants everywhere.

The example of the municiple bond problem described in the article is what may be called just another small the "tip of the iceberg" related to underfunded pension systems.

The attempt to create legitimate reform has done nothing but initiate a reckoning by the banking and market institutions.



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