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I have no doubt that you are right. This was a decision made by Republicans on the day he was elected. Not his policies, not anything he had done nor even promised. Simply that foolish Americans had the audacity or stupidity to elect a Democrat to the presidency, worse yet a Black Democrat!
So, let's say they retake the House the Senate and the Whitehouse? Then what? With Newt Gingrich and Sarha Palin at the helm where will they steer the nation? Away from Obama is not good enough. It must be into prosperity or the backlash will be even worse than Democrats are facing in this election cycle.
I sincerely hope that Republicans retake the nation and set it onto a path towards a golden future. A path where all Americans, who work as hard as you did, will be rewarded as well as you have been for their efforts. At the same time I sincerely doubt that they are any more prepared to handle the massive problems we face than was President Obama and his failed Congress.
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NO! My point is that I am sick of people telling me what we cannot do.
One of the two major parties has earned the nickname "The Party Of No" No Insurance Reform, No financial reform. No chance they will compromise on any issue. No way they will let President Obama appear successful because that would cost them even more seats in Congress.
Show me the money. How does your party plan to achieve success?
As near as I can tell there is No plan except to prove Obama a failure in order to win elections. Unless they come up with a plan and achieve success, implement it, and make voters happy, Republican success will turn very quickly to defeat again.
I don't give a rat's ass which party puts Humpty Dumpty together again but the party of No doesn't appear focused on anything but winning elections.
The Party of No spine isn't much better but they are trying to get something done even if it is wrong.


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GOD am I glad you moved to Canada, you'll fit right in up there.
We both rejoice.

However, you did not deal with the point. How very different from your usual careful analysis. wink

So why would I waste a minute analyzing your thoughts when I disagree with them totally?


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Originally Posted by Ma_Republican
So why would I waste a minute analyzing your thoughts when I disagree with them totally?
Wait! Wait! Let me get this straight!

You disagree with my thoughts totally, and you did not waste a minute examining them?

Interesting.

Have you ever thought of geting yourself a radio talk-show?

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NO! My point is that I am sick of people telling me what we cannot do.
One of the two major parties has earned the nickname "The Party Of No" No Insurance Reform, No financial reform. No chance they will compromise on any issue. No way they will let President Obama appear successful because that would cost them even more seats in Congress.
Show me the money. How does your party plan to achieve success?
As near as I can tell there is No plan except to prove Obama a failure in order to win elections. Unless they come up with a plan and achieve success, implement it, and make voters happy, Republican success will turn very quickly to defeat again.
I don't give a rat's ass which party puts Humpty Dumpty together again but the party of No doesn't appear focused on anything but winning elections.
The Party of No spine isn't much better but they are trying to get something done even if it is wrong.

Can we stop with the whole childish "Party of NO" BS? It still comes down to the President selling his platform to America and having America tell their Rep and Senators to agree with the POTUS. If the President can't convince the public he can't implement his platform.

As far as I am concerned Obama is responsible for his own failure, spectacular as it has been. His signature piece of legislation is hated by the public and is very questionable from a leagl standpoint. His standing in Congress is slightly less than Jesse Jackson's and his standing with the public is just about the same. I am not somebody who makes excuses for my failures and I refuse to let others make excuses for politicians. What could have been a complete success has turned sour, all because Obama didn't understand that Americans don't want their government telling them what to do.

For 6 years your party played the same game as the Republicans are playing right now, except the public liked GW more than they like Obama. GW, for as big a moron as he was, was successful is using the power of the Presidency top get his way with Congress. The Dems had to resort to outright lies to derail his Presidency, the Res only have to point at the deficit and the socialist tendencies that Obama shows and ask "Do you really want the government telling you that you HAVE to buy that product?" "Do you really believe that the promises that the President made about YOUR health plans are true?" "Do you really believe that anything run by the government will be cost effective?"

It isn't the Republican's fault your guy sucks! It is your fault for election a guy who had 18 months experience as a Senator and whose only other job, community organizer, is closer to being a huckster than it is to being an employee. So, stop cryinng on my shoulder and telling me it is my fault. Had you listened to me 20 months ago you would have seen what a fraud Obama is. Instead you, and your party, have been set back years because you decided that ideology was a better option than competence.

Not that I am complaining, just that your choice of candidate has hurt millions of Americans in 18 short months.


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America tell their Rep and Senators to agree with the POTUS.
rolleyes
if you think that's REALLY how it works you're, well, way lost brother. pols don't listen to their constituents. they don't vote based upon their constituents desires. surely you know that. i guess my ignorance comes in believing that most people no better these days. but, well, who knew ... Hmm


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Can we stop with the whole childish "Party of NO" BS?
In a word: No. Until they do something positive they will be seen AS A NEGATIVE.


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Originally Posted by Ma_Republican
his policies are so unpopular
The reality is I am also against the policies as mischaracterized by the conservative propaganda machine ... jezz .... death panels .... i am against them too
So the reality is if we take an objective look at the policies we will see something quite different than portrayed by you

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For 6 years your party played the same game as the Republicans are playing right now,
Oh, and it Aint my party partner. But at least you admit that the Republicans are playing a game with our countries future.
Was the other party playing a game during the Bush administration or was he really and truly a a failure as a president?


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Originally Posted by Ma_Republican
Obama wanted to forward a very liberal agenda and he schemed to do so any way possible
This another laughably disingenuous statement.

If by liberal you really mean not conservative then I suspect you believe moderates are liberals as well and thus my assessment above. I suspect you can't name one Obama policy which was not also promoted by some Republican. Wouldn't that make people like Romney a liberal? So you have a very distorted view of what a liberal is. And very liberal ... doesn't deserve a response.

Anyway possible? Following the same rules that we have developed in Congress in over 200 hundred years is anything possible. O gee you are right. And what is your point? That Congressmen all do the same thing?

Are you sure you didn't want Pres Obama to fail?

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