Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues The Obama Administration Obama Defends Ground Zero Mosque Plans In Ramadan

No, it doesn't rest purely on property rights. It should, but when there are people claiming that it is offensive and asking what can be done to prevent this mosque from being built, then first amendment comes into it. That was not decided by President Obama. It was decided with those that find the mosque offensive. President Obama merely answered those inquiries, using the Constitution to explain why what these protesters wanted was not legally possible.

Then you are basically saying that "we" are not a "nation of laws", in which case, there is no real foundation for folks prattling on about a First Amendment right to religious freedom because the result will not be based on law. When the dust has settled, the decision concerning this structure will be determined politically.
Yours,
Issodhos

Let's turn that question around and make it a food/health issue. How many people does McDonald's kill?

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Both loganrbt and Issy are making good points, IMHO.

There was absolutely no political upside to Obama taking a position on this issue. He said what he said because it was the right thing to say. How refreshing.

Issy is right about one thing: this is primarily a property rights issue. It was, however, the fearmongers who made it about more than that. And that is when the President decided to remind us that we are a nation of laws.

This puts it into its proper perspective...

Iss...

IMO, I think that public opinion (right or wrong) will be way more aimed at the religious implications, which many (if not a majority) believe all Muslims who practice the religion of Islam are terrorists, directly or indirectly. I doubt seriously if "property rights" will ever cross the minds of "most"...not all, who oppose or those who are possibly neutral about the building.

I truly get that many see the building of the Mosque as the most monumental display of disrespect and contempt that could possibly be perpetrated on America. There are many people who believe America has entered into a religious war with the Muslims and Islam.

However, I can also agree with much of your comments on property rights. It certainly is part of the package of rights we're all entitled to.

IMO, regardless of our individual perceptions or opinions, that this sitation, in the eyes of a very large population, isn't going to be confined to, or perceived as, being an ordinary real estate transaction with all rights entitled.

The pictures pointed to in Chucks last post is "what I tend to believe" many envision.

Zero. McDonald's is not holding a gun to a customer's head. I guess that would make it suicidem if indeed the ingesting of McDonalds fare does result in death. After all, enough noise has been made of the claimed unhealthy aspects of a McDonalds only cuisine.
Yours,
Issodhos

glad to see you didnt fall into the trap of calling it food.

and im sure that their 2 billion a year spent on brainwashing marketing is drowned out by the noise you mentioned above. One wonders why they still bother

What Logan said first page.

Thanks too, Chuck for your pictures.

Speaks my mind.