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Churlpat, my point was that stories which both you and I agree are ridiculous were spread by the Mass Media, not just internet spammers. Your misinterpretation is understandable though, since my posting is ambiguous due to the fact that I accidentally erased a sentence which would have made my point clear.

However, my implied ridicule of the Powers That Be, which was the stinger at the end of my posting, still stands. They studiously avoid investigating harm to the "cleanup fodder" [Think: "cannon fodder"] which must increasingly employed as we spiral to ecological catastrophe.

Exxon-Valdez, Gulf War Syndrome, 9/11 toxic cleanup, and now the Gulf Oil Volcano! You get the idea? Heaven forbid that the destroyers of our planet should ever be forced to pay for the ravages they have wrought!

For God's sake man. When you post something like this, please make at least a small attempt to get the interpretation correct.

LOOK AT THE VIDEO!

The scientist did not say that the fish are already mutating. He said, "We might see . . . fish with mutated gills or fins; things like that. WE DON'T NOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE."

I put that in caps to make sure you see where you have gone wrong.

It is posts like yours that contribute to the plethora of lies and bad science that is reported on the internet as truth. You owe it to yourself and to others not to foster such garbage.

Mutations are what happens to organisms in future generations. The spill is not even a year old and it is way too early to even begin to see mutative changes.

Joe, I don't live close enough to the Gulf to be directly effected, but read the Fishing Report that I supplied, those are the areas I have spent a lifetime fishing in. In your world I suppose eating anything is like playing Russian Roulette; it only takes one bad egg...one bad hamburger...one bad carrot. The Gulf oil spill was a horrible disaster, some areas were affected more than others.
The thousands of people out snorkeling and chasing scallops, including a couple dozen of my friends and family are not stupid people. They have the same access to the same videos that you do, the same ability to decide what is safe and what is not. And believe me they research it as closely as you do before they make their decision to swim in, fish in and eat or not eat gulf seafood. It only take one drunk running a red light to kill you, so you better always stay inside your house, never drive or cross a road, eat only certified organic(which is fed manure) vegetables and purified water.
You will live forever and always be happy!

Oh, and I live in Clermont, Florida, About as far from either coast as a person can get (hurricanes..y'know?) It's a little over an hours drive to the Atlantic or the Gulf. I don't know any Commercial fishermen, but there has been no ban at all on fishing of any kind in this area and the Fishing Ban has been lifted since July up your way as well.. But please, don't eat the fish if you are concerned and don't be too concerned about the many of us who do. None of the Scallopers developed those nasty sores that your friend did, nor anyone else that I've heard of.

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I can't stand it any longer! As H. W. Fowler, of glorious memory, remarked of the words "affect" and "effect":

"These verbs are not synonyms requiring differentiation, but words of totally different meaning, neither of which can ever be substituted for the other."

American lexicographers agree with their British colleagues in upholding correct usage:

"Affect and effect have no senses in common; therefore the tendency to confuse the words must be guarded against closely."
---The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language

"Affect" means to influence or change.

"Effect" refers to the first element of cause-and-effect: to cause, to accomplish.

The Gulf Oil Disaster was effected by the Vast Worldwide Right-Wing Conspiracy.

The Gulf Oil Disaster was affected by weather conditions.

As nouns, "effect" means a result, the second element of cause-and-effect; an "affect" in modern usage is a rarely used technical term in psychology.

I regard the prevalence of this confusion as the baneful effect of the Brainwashing Machine mass media, whose presenters and talking-heads are chosen for their obedience to authority and skill in effecting propaganda---definitely not for their competence in their native language!

I note that you have yet to answer the question: You don't live on or near the Gulf Coast do you? I won't mention that I originally put the question in bold type so that you wouldn't miss it and expected an answer.

You did.Did you look at the other videos? Peculiar that you didn't mention who funded Dr. Paul's research. So, did you look at the other videos? If you did, you'll notice that some of people featured in Can The Gulf Survive? are now in the hospital. FYI- mutations have already appeared. Dr. Paul was looking at some. The research is whether or not they're permanent.

"You did.Did you look at the other videos? Peculiar that you didn't mention who funded Dr. Paul's research. So, did you look at the other videos? If you did, you'll notice that some of people featured in Can The Gulf Survive? are now in the hospital. FYI- mutations have already appeared. Dr. Paul was looking at some. The research is whether or not they're permanent. "

I went back to the site you posted. There was the one video. NO OTHERS.

There was no reference to who was funding the scientist's research in the video YOU cited. There was no statement that mutations have already occurred. I just watched the video again.

I also looked at the second url you just posted. There is absolutely nothing there about anyone's being in the hospital.

You say that mutations have already occurred. My response: I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT. And the research would not be to determine whether mutations would be permanent. Mutations ARE permanent. The only research would be to see whether the mutations are viable.

I honestly don't understand your point. Please answer my question: Do you live in or on the Gulf Coast? Also, FYI- basic science: mutations can start within an existing organism.

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Aren't we getting away from the main point here?

The Gulf Oil Disaster was and is a serious blow to the eco-system of the region. Many people did suffer serious health side-effects. How long lasting and permanent these effects will be can only be determined by future scientific study---which will, of course, not be pursued seriously by either government or the corporations involved.