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Multi-cultural Americans are not dangerous to the freedoms of any of us. I have battled the process of bigotry for many years.
What is a culture? Is it the color of our skin? It is the music that inspires us? What harm can culture inflict on our individual freedoms? a choice of our God, or none? I hate to open this up for discussion with you, Issodhos, as I have been called some heavily insulting labels on another forum.
I believe that is it the proper time to declare our end game for America. It is becoming more and more popular for many Americans here and elsewhere, to give some serious thought to define our individual desires for a shared culture. It tends to define us all.
I put myself through a transformation of anti Neocon Republicans and searched for another Party that would work on individual rights.
The conclusion to this search was to define the lack of culture within our political campaigns. Constant whining is not a culture. Americans really want an over-powering government to tell us all what we must do in our personal lives. Back in the fifties, a writer, whose name slipped my old memories, wrote about the same mess we now are experiencing. He had a nation, smaller than the USA and the government took all investments, savings accounts and property away from those who had invested well and had "more than enough money" to survive. Within 8 years those rich people regained their money and left the poor in the same financial mess where they started.
Did the newly-rich part of the redistribution focus on their children's future? No! The kids were given racing cars and many ended up in fatal accidents. The point was well made by the author and I never forgot the message. The once wealthy parents could not start over and many died of drug-addiction and alcohol troubles.
Is there any solution for America starting in the new year of 2011? Taxing will never make us happier. Every time a poor family wins the lottery, they usually spend the winnings and end up in more debt than they ever had.
Where is the American culture now? I doubt America ever had a culture. We seem to be unable to locate the one single thing we would die for. For many it is the survival of our children. Violence is up at this time and our kids are in constant fear of being taken from the home and then beaten to death. Sadly, it is often a member of the family who abuses and kills our little ones. American culture is based on violence.
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' The culture of America is lying---both to others, and to oneself.
I have often said, "The human race consists of a vast mass of zombies controled by a few vampires at the top. But the really scary thing is that even the vampires are zombies."
The events of your novel actually occurred in Germany two or three years after the end of World War II. On a certain day, the old Nazi currency became illegal, and everyone in the country was given new money---the same for everybody.
A German friend told me, "And by the end of that day, some people had more money, and some people had no money."
The lesson I take from this is not that the rich are clever and the poor are foolish and improvident---although that is, of course, true. It is rather that the rich know how to make money and have their well-established support networks, while the poor don't have a clue.
And as long as lying is the basis of our "civilization," nothing will change.
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' Where is the American culture now? I doubt America ever had a culture. We seem to be unable to locate the one single thing we would die for. Dying for your ideals is relatively easy. What is difficult is living for them---in an intelligent and sensible manner.
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It is not just an American cultural thing to lie to others and themselves. I feel that it is a human thing. After all, the Canadians do it all the time when referring to the "First Peoples". Canadians speak nicely about them, and put forth regrets on how they were treated, but did they do the truly altruistic and honorable act and leave Canada to them? NO, the were as disingenuous as the Americans and kept the best for themselves.The Germans did this during WWI< and WWII. The French and the English throughout history, The Chinese, Mongols, Italians, Russians, Japanese...I could go on and on. Saving blame for only one country is tunnel vision. Americans are not perfect, but they are not wholesale in their imperfections-and neither is any other culture or country of this planet.
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' You are quite right, Scoutgal, everyone in the world lies.
It's just that Americans are wildly enthusiastic about it, and specialize in it.
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I think that Muslim extremists, non American anti Globalists and several African countries rival us. No one country has cornered the market on this. It may just be that your still-close proximity to the US keeps you so readily informed.
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' You are quite right, Scoutgal, everyone in the world lies.
It's just that Americans are wildly enthusiastic about it, and specialize in it. You have again offended me and all Americans. I have asked the moderators to look at your post.
Take the nacilbupeR pledge: I solemnly swear that I will help back out all Republicans at the next election.
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he's american and he enjoys offending people. you made his day. LOL
sure, you can talk to god, but if you don't listen then what's the use? so, onward through the fog!
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Yes, by calling me and you enthusiastic liars. Do you take no offense at being so labeled? If so, you need to do nothing. But if you do take offense you too have only to hit the notify button at the bottom of his post.
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Lying seems to be a common human trait. Could it be that many Americans, believing themselves to be Christians, make no effort to keep their oath of fidelity when they marry? 51% of our marriages fail which means the oath was never respected.
Honesty and truth-telling are not considered part of our American culture. I'm not certain that any American can stand tall and claim to be a cultural American.
What holds us together as Americans? I used to think that our values of equality for other Americans allowed us to stand out among other humans. That certainly is no longer the case. We now have our labels to pin on others and tear their individual values apart. The latest complaint about President Obama is that he does not look like the rest of us.
If anything, his winning the 2008 election brought out the basic racism in many American voters. I honestly never was aware of this deep-seated racism. I would have to say that America has no culture which I define as having respect for all humans.
Thanks for the information, numan;I think this redistribution of wealth has been forced on nations in the past. What is worse, is the redistribution of sins that the Catholic Church pushed on the citizens of France, Italy and Spain. I still do not think America is safe from the religious right. In 2000, we were threatened with the Prohibitions that came with the Bush 43 election. I read a lot of books on this first 3 months of the Bush 43 Administration.
I am currently reading a book called "Takeover" which follows the history of Dick Cheney by Charlie Savage. Vice President Cheney was behind the changes made in the Executive White House. The White House influence is now stronger over the House and Senate laws. It became apparent that even President Reagan slipped into the power growth within the White House. Cheney was at his best under President Bush 43. The longer Dick Cheney is within the government, the less power will be found in the U.S. Constitution.
Bow to the Imperial White House.
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