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Any scientific thesis starts with an assumption and proceeds to the experimentation stage. During experimentation the thesis is tested at its limits to see if further testing is necessary. That testing phase, also called experimentation, is what decides whether the thesis is correct or flawed. If the thesis is flawed then it must be refined or discarded. In this case the thesis was at least flawed, but the data was manipulated to prove the thesis.

That is a simple explanation of the scientific process. It is a standard that is taught in every vocational high school, technical institute and engineering college in America. Everything is an experiment, without experimentation validity cannot exist.

Wrongo, Mate. The Ice has actually gone south for the winter.
After enduring centuries of frigid Canadian winters the Ice has simply moved to warmer climes. Some of it has been seen as far south as Florida.

Let's just say it is from observation, Schlack. Hopefully that is not considered blasphemy among the Initiates of All Things 'Science'.:-)
Yours,
Issodhos

So, after reading all of those observations, should I never drive a car because I might get into an accident?

I know what the scientific method is. But that was not what I asked. I asked specifically what experimentation had been done and you ignored the question. What experiments have been done? By whom? You are the one who said "The experiment was flawed from the beginning. . .."

Going on about what the scientific method is does not answer the specific question:

WHAT EXPERIMENTS?

Passage through our territory? That'll be two 'Loonies', eh?

So, after reading all of those observations, should I never drive a care because I might get into an accident? Never ski because a Kennedy once died while playing football on skis and didn't see the tree he ran into? Never eat raw fish, never breath unfiltered air, never go into a big city because the crime rate in the cities are much higher than in the country?

As I have said many times, I agree with the ulterior motives of this new enviro-religion. Who doesn't want clean water and clean air? My problem is the path that was taken to impose it upon the entire industrialized world.

When perfroming an experiment the data collected dictate the results of the experiment. If the test equipment used in the experiment is made to indicate false results, the experiment itself is a useless exercise in curiosity, its results as useless as the exercise. Once the "scientists" decided to exclude data points that did not fit their desired results, once they decided to modify thier software to produce only desired results, once they decided to job the peer review process by using only sympathetic reviewers and hiding their data, it stopped being an experiment and became an exercise in curiosity.

...Once the "scientists" decided to exclude data points that did not fit their desired results, once they decided to modify thier software to produce only desired results, once they decided to job the peer review process by using only sympathetic reviewers and hiding their data, it stopped being an experiment and became an exercise in curiosity.

Unfortunately for climate skeptics, the CRU hacking incident fails to support the burden that they have placed upon it. Whatever behavior was revealed in these emails, even its most salacious interpretation can scarcely undermine the global edifice of knowledge about the causes of ongoing climate change—which may be bolstered by, but certainly does not rely solely upon, CRU’s research and analyses. Mainline scientists fully recognize this; thus, following the CRU hacking, the American Meteorological Society reaffirmed its longstanding statement on the human causation of climate change...

Climate is changing in many ways. Global mean temperatures have been rising steadily over the last 40 years, with the six warmest years since 1860 occurring in the last decade. Regionally, the warming trend is greatest in northern latitudes, over land, and at night. Decreases in Arctic sea ice have been observed. Most studies indicate that ice loss has recently accelerated at the margins of Greenland and the West Antarctic ice sheet, whereas the East Antarctic ice sheet and the Greenland interior appear to be gaining mass. In the U.S. most of the observed warming has occurred in the West and in Alaska. However, there are regional variations in the signature of climate change, with warming in the western U.S. but little or no annual temperature change in the southeast U.S. in recent decades. Temperature rises have significant hydrologic effects. Freezing levels are rising in elevation, rain occurs instead of snow at mid-elevations, spring maximum snowpack is decreasing, snowmelt occurs earlier, and the spring runoff that supplies over two-thirds of the western U.S. streamflow is reduced.

Evidence for warming is also observed in seasonal changes with earlier springs, longer frost-free periods and longer growing seasons, and shifts in natural habitats and in migratory patterns of birds.

...what is the point of dealing with a person who repeats that what isn't true?

the experiment done poorly