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Because population growth is a constant in California, the legislature a few years ago sought to avoid the NIMBY attempt by well to do communities to pass all that growth to the less affluent by mandating additional housing in all areas.

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I know Phil. "Whining" was not the word I was looking for--but it popped into my head.

Anyway--perhaps with climate change LA will end up with enough water after all. Gotta look on the bright side--no?


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Ken of course the problem is this is an aberration, not a sustainable rain pattern. If this kind of thing happened regularly we would have to build dams and reservoirs and the plant growth would be phenomenal.

In fact, as I mentioned, this kind of rain is not supposed to happen in a la nina year such as this. It is all the fault of an Alaskan low center that won't move (damn that Palin)


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Originally Posted by Phil Hoskins
...that is a lot of rain for a paved over city to handle, and the mountains and foothills are over 10 inches in places.
That's why your El Lay "river" is cemented to carry all that water away to the...ocean. coffee


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What some cities have done in NorCal, especially around BART stations, is to tear up entire neighborhoods and replace the neighborhood with new, modern, high-density housing where the house essentially has a "zero lot line."

...but these new communities are very expensive because they are right next to major public transportation and commerce (grocery, Post Office, etc)


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Check out San Francisco's brand-new Transportation Center


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The revitalization of the Los Angeles River has begun to return it to being a river instead of just a flood control chanel.
River revitalization project


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Originally Posted by Phil Hoskins
Thanks for the link Phil. I'm impressed. smile

SoCal is taking a NorCal approach to green belts, recreation, and ecosystems. Good work El Lay! Bow

I sincerely hope that the project comes to reality - it'll be good for everyone - and change a lot of mindsets to embrace more green belt areas.


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Originally Posted by Phil Hoskins
Ken of course the problem is this is an aberration, not a sustainable rain pattern. If this kind of thing happened regularly we would have to build dams and reservoirs and the plant growth would be phenomenal.
You mean you would become--gasp--Oregon?


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Originally Posted by california rick
What some cities have done in NorCal, especially around BART stations, is to tear up entire neighborhoods and replace the neighborhood with new, modern, high-density housing where the house essentially has a "zero lot line."

...but these new communities are very expensive because they are right next to major public transportation and commerce (grocery, Post Office, etc)
Do you mean that the city government is doing this? Or do you mean that this is something that private developers are doing in the cities? It's unclear from the context.


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