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people get what the deserve when they elect a president was a former CIA director. nuff said.

Rick:

Have you ever seen anyone get shot in real life? The picked up and hurled stuff is CRAP! It's a matter of simple physics.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. When a bullet is fired inside the chamber of a gun, the amount of energy imparted to the bullet is EXACTLY equal to the energy that pushes the gun back in the opposite direction. Nu further energy magically flows into the bullet during its flight. In fact, ever meter it goes the slower it goes due to air resistance. NOT MUCH, but the point remains that the energy begins to drop off as soon as the bullet reaches the end of the barrel.

But back to the energy pushing on the gun. If there were enough energy in the bullet to knock a man ten or fifteen feet through the air the same amount of energy would kick the gun (and the shooter) backwards ten or fifteen feet. But the energy is just not there to do that. A typical 9mm slug leaves the barrel with around 400 foot pounds force (fpf). Sounds like a lot, but you have to remember that the bullet does NOT weigh a pound. It weighs perhaps 125 grains. There are 7000 grains in a pound (don't ask me why such an odd figure, but that's the truth of it.) If the bullet weighed a pound it would potentially push a 200-pound shooter back two feet. But it weighs 125/7000 of a pound, so it would push a 200 pound shooter back 2 times 0.017 foot. Or a bit less than half an inch. At the other end (when the bullet hits a person) the same amount of force is at work. And much of that force is expended in damage to the part hit, flattening of the bullet, etc. And in some cases, as in Rep. Giffords, the bullet goes right through, taking its remaining energy with it!

The scenes you see in movies where a guy is running forward, gets shot, and is blown backwards? Pure unadulterated bullsh!t. It does not happen. I've been shot. And I've personally seen people get shot. People do not get pushed around by a bullet like that. EVER! Go watch Schindler's List. There's a scene where a Nazi camp commandant shoots a gun similar to the one Oswald used into the head of a woman in the courtyard, perhaps 50 meters away. Does she fly backwards? No. She drops like a stone.

And that's exactly what happened to the people who were shot that day in 1981. You can look at the youtube tape. Did Reagan get knocked even six inches? Clearly not. Did Brady go flying through the air? Clearly not. Neither did the cop or the Secret Service agent. You can see it for yourself.

That TruthMove Forum thing you linked to is a real pile of crap. It actually contends that Hinkley was not the shooter. "The person placed as the patsy, not the person that actually shot Reagan but the person placed as the patsy in the case, was John Hinkley." Anyone who believes that is f**king stupid. Not ignorant, which can be cured, but stupid. Hinkley was apprehended on the spot with the gun in his hand. Dozens of people identified him as the shooter. How anyone could say with a straight face that he was a stooge is simply beyond me.

As to some parts of a document being correct and some not being correct ("even Sarah Palin is correct on occasion") I disagree completely with you. If one part of a document is demonstrably false, the level of confidence drops precipitously. How do you know what the writer has gotten right and what the writer has gotten wrong? Question everything.

I bet some of the punctuation is correct!

john judge is an interesting researcher. much of his work has been found to have merit over the years. yet conspiracy theories are an easy target. once the mainstream mind is fed the message, it's difficult for it to comprehend anything else.

indeed. everything.

Correct. Many believe it was actually the Secret Service guy jumping on top of Mr. Reagan inside the limousine and Mr. Reagan had not been shot prior to that time.

Churlpy, do you have a comment regarding the Hinckley-Bush family relationship? Don't you find their relationship odd in light of who is accused of shooting Mr. Reagan?

Thank you 2wins.

the world is full of strange coincidences. the bush family seems to be at the head of the pack here.

Well, there are coincidences and then there are "coincidences." The Bush family falls under the umbrella of "coincidences."

It is not a "coincidence" that two different WH male-prostitute scandals - where male prostitutes are roaming the White House freely - when two different Bushes are in the executive branch?

I find this "coincidence" to be very queer to say the least.