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numan #182755 05/28/11 08:42 PM
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The herring fisheries died off following the Exxon Valdez disaster. I hope that it doesn't happen here in the GOM. Give the corporations credit. They learned how to manage the PR.

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The herring fisheries died off following the Exxon Valdez disaster. I hope that it doesn't happen here in the GOM

Are there Herring fisheries in the Gulf?


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Originally Posted by Greger
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The herring fisheries died off following the Exxon Valdez disaster. I hope that it doesn't happen here in the GOM

Are there Herring fisheries in the Gulf?

wild herring,
but no fishery

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Greger, I'm not going to play any "goo-goo" games with you. There's problems with the Gulf. Write your Congressman! He'll help.

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There's little my congressman or yours can do about the damage in the gulf. It will be many years before things return to normal in some areas. In other areas things will probably never return to normal. Fortunately, in many areas the damage was minimal. I had some fine oysters last night that were harvested from the Apalachicola Bay. A dozen raw and a few fried in an Oyster Po Boy, along with some Blue Crab Stew. I'll die someday but I doubt if it will be Gulf Seafood that kills me.


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[b]Valdez spill's effects on fish raise concerns[/b]
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The Gulf of Mexico isn't dead because of BP's oil spill, but fishermen are fearful that a species may disappear from its waters like the Pacific herring did from Alaska's Prince William Sound after the Exxon Valdez disaster.

Although scientists still debate the reasons for the herring collapse in the years following that spill, there's little doubt the crude in the Gulf is threatening species prized as human seafood, as well as those creatures' food sources.

"The biggest fear we have is red snapper, which eats a lot of shrimp and crab," said Buddy Guindon, who owns Katie's Seafood Market in Galveston and operates three commercial fishing boats in the Gulf. "What will be the replacement food for the snapper? It could cause the collapse of a lot of fisheries."

The fear extends beyond red snapper to other species, including bluefin tuna, red drum and menhaden, which use the Gulf as nursery and spawning areas. It may take years for all the damage to show up.

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Japan has Fukushima, America has the BP Oil Disaster.

But the solution is the same in both cases.

Ignore them.

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4) Did BP and its Gulf Coast corporate partners.[excised portion]...subsequently acted in concert with one another
Yes, they did ! BP's David Eyton, 2009 Head of Research and Technology, staunch supporter of IPCC and urgent action to save the environment, one who had high hopes for Copenhagen producing more binding agreements...

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Perhaps we all need to "jump from the Kiyomizu stage" together, as they say here in Tokyo


http://www.stsforum.org/Previous/2009/PLPDF/PL102_Eyton_D.pdf

was sought out and retained, by University of East Anglia, upon first knowledge of the looming disaster.

Mr Eyton put some herculean "back" into the labours; he shoveled like mad, come Hell or Horizon blowout, until he fully found nothing really wrong in the climategate email items.


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Partners till The End. Not a squeak from the climategate characters about an oil man appointed to judge their errant missives. Not odd at all !

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The Moncondo blow out became significantly worse when government arrived saying "I'm here to help". ( Not to say the interplay/conflict between the on-site BP rep and its driller's experts didn't contribute to the issue.)

Drilling at that water depth is cutting edge in the oil patch. I read a great deal of information from various experienced sources at the time and my general conclusion of the input published was BP's site manager was driven by budget numbers. The contractor by standard industry techniques. Since this well was "cutting edge" there remained a "grey area" of opinion on how to best manage control of a well showing extremely high gas pressure and the uncertainities of bore casing integrity.

The ultimate effect upon Gulf environment is proving to be minimal. Oil/gas seeps are a part of the Gulf marine ecology. While larger than historically documented, the Moncondo spill isn't new to the critters/plants of the gulf. Despite the minor efforts at "cleanup" the Gulf has survived and, no doubt, will prosper on the energy input to the ecosystem.

If there's a "fault" here, its the shortsightedness of man. Far too many of us think only in terms of our lifespan. Nature, and natural processes, work in hundreds, and thousands of years. IOW, like children, we lack patience. >PS

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