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Of course it would provide a short term stimulus -- not unusual when the can is kicked down the road -- but once it is spent (on consumable goods, debt relief, and perhaps put into savings by the better off folks) the economy will be either back where it started or even worse. There is no logical reason to assume that jobs will be created or companies will expand based on a short-term one-time injection of money at the consumer level. And, given your statement that it will only "probably" bring down unemployment, effective demand will be short-lived. So again, I ask, after it has been spent, what then?
Yours,
Issodhos

This entire affair is entirely bogus. There is no debt crisis, there is a truth crisis. I am now very clear this is just another stop on the road to fascism and the take over of every aspect of life by the wealthy.

I am not voting for Obama or any member of Congress who votes for anything other than a straight vote to extend the "debt ceiling". Anything else is just ripping us off for the uber rich.

I am so disgusted with the Democrats who have caved in on every single vote. There is no Democrat party, there are shades of Republicans.

I have not been this angry since LBJ's betrayal in 1966. Traitors all.

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I quite agree with you, Phil---except that I have been outraged since September 11, 2001.

It has been a long time.

All of the "politicians" making hooey out of raising the debt limit need to be made examples of next election cycle.

• The House has already spent the money in sending budgets to any President for signature
• Defaulting on a payment is akin to ignoring your personal financial obligations, ie. not paying your car payment, not paying your electric bill - you already used the goods or service

Lastly, the 14th amendments states:
What part of all of the above do the Tea Partiers not understand?

Oh, yes, I forgot, they're not too educated:

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...but many elected Republicans and Democrats are just as bad...

Counseling and Lexapro

So where's the value in voting them back into Office? We ALL need to vote for ANYONE, I mean ANYONE on a voter ballot that IS NOT a Republican or a Democrat.

We need to make this a national movement, ie Facebook and Twitter

The psychologists struggle to get people to adjust themselves to the world.

The point, however, is to change the world. · · ·

The 14th amendment nonsense aside, keep in mind that it is the "educated" folks what got us where we be, rick.;-)
Yours,
Issodhos
P.S. But, to repeat myself:
" Major corporations, organizations, and administration after administration have usually had the "Best and the Brightest" that the most prestigious centers of higher conditioning can offer, yet we routinely see these entities either sinking into bankruptcy or public bailout, or brought low by scandal or massive criminal fraud, or implementing policy blunder after policy blunder. The common thread is that it is these supposedly "Undumb" who consistently take others into the ethical and moral abyss. It is the plutocratic saints of intellect that leave us wallowing in disaster after disaster.

Whereas these "Best and Brightest" sculpt self-gratifying grandiose policies that require the suborning of the masses, perhaps the "Unbest and the Unbrightest" could be selected by lottery and would at worst do no more poorly than our “Best and Brightest”, perhaps even engaging only in human-sized mischief – either in government or in its conjoined twin, Corpo-World.
Of course, the “Best and the Brightest”, may be the “Undumbest” of a thoroughly dumb pool of “Unbest and Unbright” to select from – in which case, we are probably screwed.:-)"

Hi Iss.

Ignorance Is Bliss!["donchaknow"!] And...
"We" have "probably" been " screwed", already ."

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Well, or at least what passes for education in the United States.