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Maybe I need to do a better job with my words. You're either too eager to put words in my mouth or I'm not doing a good enough job explaining myself, or a little of both.
I'm saying that if regulations get too skewed against trucking in general, there will be pressure generated by the market itself to change or correct them.
Regulations get changed, reversed or eliminated all the time.
Deregulation has been the clarion call of the Republican Party since there was a Republican Party. Are you attempting to tell me that you have never seen an industry deregulated in your entire life?



Oh so the President is the one that put the auto industry into insolvency now. Hmmmm...
GM on the road to recovery

GM reclaim #1 spot

US automakers: China is most important new market


You might not be opposed to it but you obviously don't understand it. To wit:


The above has to be one of my favorites.
You must be related to Tim from Massachusetts.
Something that works for the military won't work in the domestic market, eh?





You're right, I guess it makes no sense to look for adaptability OR a market for military ideas, we just manage to do it on a regular basis.



You'll get absolutely no argument from me there.


A large part of that is due to the fact that oil companies DO NOT WANT to build additional refinery capacity.
If you tell me they do, you're either lying or you don't understand WHY they don't. Additional refinery capacity drives down prices and profits. Furthermore, and this actually DOES make sense, additional refineries run the risk of going idle, which eats INTO profits at a very high rate.
Oil companies learned a long time ago to build JUST ENOUGH capacity, in fact they learned to keep capacity at a razor sharp edge, which allows them to keep prices higher.


Wrong again, moosebreath.
Congress has voted countless times to create long term energy policies. Would you like to know who benefits the most from a LACK thereof? Take a wild guess.



After all, if we have a long term energy policy that means we will also have a long term vision to do more with less, and that means less for "the people of America's oil and gas companies" and we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for the rest of us. They want to squeeze as much of that money out of our pockets as possible.


Yeah, you keep saying that there is some mysterious group of sinister people out there who want to restrict people's drive to succeed. That's got a strangely familiar ring to it!

Hey, you wanna keep slinging those barbs about five year plans and other little jabs that imply I'm a communist? Sure go ahead, it's not going to do much toward promoting honest intellectual discussion and it sure makes it hard to respect what you have to say, but go ahead.

Five year plans, pogroms, anything else?
You expect someone to treat you with respect, you're gonna have to drop the Hannity act.

And by the way, you've proven that you have never been to
The Oil Drum forum until the day I introduced you to it, because you keep trying to imply that I think we can squeeze more energy out of a gallon of fuel than it contains.
It's not possible to be a reader of that forum and believe in such an idea. That's why I never have believed such a thing.
You're trying very hard to make it SOUND like I do, but you've failed. That's YOU talking, not me.

I think I have proven long ago that I am intelligent enough to understand concepts like energy content, EROEI, quantitative inputs, peak power curves etc.

I think what you're actually trying to do is intentionally insult my intelligence. Keep it up.

I think I already explained the way I believe we can increase efficiency, and it had nothing to do with some fantasy in YOUR head that makes YOU think I believe there is more energy in a gallon of fuel. That's all on you, pal. I never said, implied it or promoted it.

What I DO believe is that we're clinging to ancient powertrain concepts which are woefully inefficient and the least we can do if we're going to ride out the remainder of Hubbert's curve is to make the powertrain get the most OUT of the energy in that fuel.

We can do more to deliver most of the power to the wheels and throw away less as mechanical loss and waste heat.

And it is incumbent upon us to make the effort to do so.