Capitol Hill Blue Forums Life and Moral Issues Morality & Society At what point...?

I called my friend as he's the care-giver for the guy I've been discussing and my friend said he isn't on CA Medicare he's on private insurance, but will have it taken away when he turns 65 for Medicare. Then, that's when the problems start. The guy is something like 55 years old.

So for 20 years, since 35, the guy I've been discussing has been "retired" with a medical condition.

My friend also said that he didn't know that the estate will become an issue when the guy turns 65 because the both of them hadn't thought that far ahead.

My friend is up and down and it's always some drama with the guy he's a care-giver for. Last fall, it was found the guy had cancer in the mastoid bone.

The doctor's thought they got rid of it, but it appears it's back. The doctor's want to do more treatments...

Again, at what cost? Who's benefiting?

From my friend's perspective, he feels that his friend doesn't deserve all he's been through: blind in one eye, deaf in one ear, now this mastoid cancer. Plus the guy my friend is a care-giver invited this other guy to live with them and the other guy is such a slouch he doesn't even pay rent because he doesn't make enough income to pay rent in San Francisco. This new guy is also 55 years old, and supposedly a realtor and has only made $4k this year.

I told my friend: I made more than that on unemployment for Pete's sake.

...but because the guy that my friend is a care-giver for is “madly in love” with the slacker who doesn't make any money – is putting an emotional strain on my friend who's having to deal with all of this non-sense.

My friend came “out to the country” this past weekend because he can't take his living arrangements any longer with his sick friend and the slacker guy.

Drama, drama, drama...

Welp, if "the rich" aren't paying taxes, but instead are paying for some dude or dudette to get their taxes as low as possible, then they are parasites because society needs the tax base to fix roads, extend care to others less fortunate.

The whole "community churches will take care of the poor" thingy just doesn't work.

Through sermons, witnessing, and Bible readings the churches teach congregation members to give selflessly to the poor and needy, just as our lord Jesus Christ did. Altruism is the primary function of religion. AS the Father gave his only begotten son so must believers give unto the needy. In this selflessness they will find redemption.

So now I am confused, Rick. Is this to say that your opening post was incorrect and that this is simply something you don't approve of rather than it being a drain on the public?

I was incorrect about the guy using public assistance. Ultimately, excessive use and high costs of insurance gets passed onto other policy holders, does it not?

One interesting note, the reason why the two never planned on going on Medicare is because they never thought they'd live long enough - so it was never a concern - back in 1991.

My friend who is the caregiver will be 60 next year and he's worried about his future as he's been "retired" for nearly as long.

Still, my other story about Uncle Larry and the hundred's of thousands of dollars spent to prolong his life hasn't changed the thread.

Well, rick, it was meant to be a joke, but I guess it ain't going over to well (wow, tough house). So, instead, I will just say it is the well-to-do and the rich and the super rich who pay the lion's share of this country's monetary bills -- by definiton, it ain't the po' folk or the modest income folk (51% of whom do not pay any income tax, and even recieve a check as an "earned income credit"). Some think the better off should pay more taxes (basically as punishment (its a 'progressive' thingie:-))since them paying more would do little to nothing to alleviate the deficit).
Yours,
Issodhos

There's a lot of rich people who are publicly stating that they want to pay more taxes.



...but that is all another thread.

"At what point...?

Isn't the problem that there is no sure and certain point that we could identify even if we made the effort. There are infinite shades of gray that are perceived differently at different times by different people

True; however, a terminally ill person is never going to be well, again.



Give them a morphine drip until it's time...