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Help me Mech. What’s PROKA stand for? I got the other acronyms.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Plastic surgery is not always cosmetic. There may be a medical reason they want to do this, like drooping eyelids interfering with eye lubrication, etc. If it is purely cosmetic, then that's asking for trouble for somebody with HIV, on immunosuppressives, or with the type of skin that scars easily. Better to just put up with a little age-appropriate appearance! It was done for a 'medical' reason - even a piece of gold was inserted in the lower eye lid as part of the proceedure. ...but still, c'mon, he's gotten 20 years of free prescription, plus monthly coupons for free taxi rides - when is enough to spend on one person? At what point does a single individual become a financial burden to society?
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These mega-expenses to prolong someone's life a few days or months is a converation that we as a society need to have. What we need, Rick, is some sort of death panels to decide who does and does not get these sometimes lifesaving treatments. As for me, Just send me home with a lot of morphine.
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These mega-expenses to prolong someone's life a few days or months is a converation that we as a society need to have. What we need, Rick, is some sort of death panels to decide who does and does not get these sometimes lifesaving treatments. As for me, Just send me home with a lot of morphine. Thanks for chiming in Sarah. Are you running for President, or not?  "Lifesaving" treatment is an oxymoron. It's live-prolonging treatments - no one has lived forever that I know of...
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Plastic surgery is not always cosmetic. There may be a medical reason they want to do this, like drooping eyelids interfering with eye lubrication, etc. If it is purely cosmetic, then that's asking for trouble for somebody with HIV, on immunosuppressives, or with the type of skin that scars easily. Better to just put up with a little age-appropriate appearance! It was done for a 'medical' reason - even a piece of gold was inserted in the lower eye lid as part of the proceedure. ...but still, c'mon, he's gotten 20 years of free prescription, plus monthly coupons for free taxi rides - when is enough to spend on one person? At what point does a single individual become a financial burden to society? Well, based on recent posts, when he becomes wealthy.  Yours, Issodhos
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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That will never happen - he doesn't even buy CA Lotto tickets. (Which reminds me, I have about four weeks of tickets to check, I might be a millionaire and not know it...  )
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That will never happen - he doesn't even buy CA Lotto tickets. (Which reminds me, I have about four weeks of tickets to check, I might be a millionaire and not know it... ) Let's try that again, rick. Question: At what point does a single individual become a financial burden to society? Answer: Well, based on recent posts, when he becomes wealthy. Yours, Issodhos Get it? Get it? The rich are parasites! The rich don't pay any taxes! The rich steal from the poor! Get it?!
"When all has been said that can be said, and all has been done that can be done, there will be poetry";-) -- Issodhos
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Rick, I don't think that saving a life means that it will be prolonged forever. Some folks just want to live as long as they can. Some folks want to keep their dogs and cats and parents around as long as they possibly can. Society needs to see the good sense in letting go of things but it's often a very emotional subject and difficult to deal with.
The medical profession, on the other hand, needs to learn to say "there is nothing more we can do."
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I told my daughter that if I couldn't take care of myself I didn't want to drag out a long illness and wast our savings on medical bills. She looked at me like I was crazy and let me know that if it was up to her, medical treatments would continue anyway.
Every true believer is someone else's heretic.
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I told my daughter that if I couldn't take care of myself I didn't want to drag out a long illness and wast our savings on medical bills. She looked at me like I was crazy and let me know that if it was up to her, medical treatments would continue anyway. And that is one of the big problems that we face.... no matter what we put in our living will, someone else is gonna be making decisions for us. And a lot of times it is VERY difficult for a family member to be the one who says that enough is enough. There are no bright clear lines in these situations... especially if you are a non-professional who is unfamiliar with the implications of the decisions that you are asked to make. Few people want to be the person who "pulled the plug" on a relative.
"It's not a lie if you believe it." -- George Costanza
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. --Bertrand Russel
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