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"...BP directed the spill response, and government followed instructions...."
You really believe this ? Yes. Some day if you have the time or interest, review some of my previous posts where I've supplied evidence to this effect. Just briefly to recap, however: BP shouldn't have been allowed to drill at that depth in the first place; They had a well documented pattern and practice of ignoring safety regulations to save money; Despite being told not to use Corexit by the EPA, they continued to do so with the help of the Coast Guard and other military aircraft; and, BP pretty much controlled the media and access to their "clean-up" operations, which they attempted to block people from filming. They're sticking a lot of the people who put in claims. I'll stick by my conclusions. Moncondo "wasted" a lot of oil, yes. But the energy won't go to "waste". Bacteria will metabolize the oil. Krill will eat the bacteria. Small predators, (and large) will eat the krill. Larger fish will eat them and so on. Believe what you want to believe. A number of marine biologists, oceanographers, and other scientist, who are not controlled by the government or BP, believe that the entire ecosystem is in danger. Cruel as it might sound, short-term fishing bans will slough off some fishermen, but those with the resources/stamina will survive. The Gulf fisheryo will recover - not so much from the Moncondo Spill - as from overfishing. It remains to be seen if those earning their living from the Gulf learn it isn't an infinite resource and agree to manage their take. You would not feel that way if you were one of the many fisherman or tourist dependent businesses sloughed off. Did you know that the government is buying a lot of the catch of the remaining fisherman and serving it to the arm forces? Be interesting to see about 5-10 years down the road to see if the Gulf seafood has any effects on those servicemen who consumed it regularly. It's already had some effects on Gulf coast residents who have eaten it. FWIW, in a former employment I spent a lot of time in LA and along the River. I enjoyed the people, the culture and the food. It hurts to know a lot of those friends I made have suffered so. Yet I know they're of a strong stock and culture that can weather this event as they've weathered so many past. >Mech Check with some of your former friends. You might find that they're not as confident about their future as you are.
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A Plague on the Gulf: Local Fisherman Pulls Up Dozens of Crabs with Oil Stains, Burns and Lesions Off Pensacola In a brassy attempt to further limit its liability, BP is arguing that the Gulf has made such a miraculous recovery from last year’s 200-million-gallon oil spill that “future loss” claims should be nixed. That assertion flies in the face of countless reports coming from up and down the Gulf Coast. Many of the most troubling narratives come from local fishermen, crabbers and oyster harvesters – who are encountering not only dramatically smaller catches but also visibly sick, deformed and oiled seafood from Louisiana’s Grand Isle to the Florida panhandle. And we’ve got photos to prove it
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[b]Expert: BP spill likely cause of sick Gulf fish[/b]Bell reported Lucky Russell is convinced his days as a commercial fisherman are numbered.
"I don't think we'll be fishing in five years," he said. "My opinion." A lot of the Gulf seafood catch is being sold to the military. If I was some kid in the services and the government told me that the Gulf seafood was safe, my diet probably would be close to 80% seafood. I'll guess that the government is probably following the diet and health of young servicemen. If they are, then these studies should be made available some day.
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' A lot of the Gulf seafood catch is being sold to the military. If I was some kid in the services and the government told me that the Gulf seafood was safe, my diet probably would be close to 80% seafood. Well, that, perhaps, makes sense. The more quickly aggressive, gullible and easily brainwashed people are removed from the gene-pool, the more quickly the human race may approach at least a semi-civilized condition.
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' [b]Here we go again? Massive oil slick forms near Deepwater Horizon site[/b]Some people said that BP never really sealed the Deepwater Horizon leak, at least not properly. Others think they pulled some kind of variation of Three-Card Monty. Be that as it may, there have been allegations in the past few weeks that the Mocando Well is, indeed, leaking to the surface again, allegations backed up by a growing body of evidence and some very peculiar activity....
A California nonprofit organization dedicated to the protection and preservation of wildlife has discovered what seems to be a massive oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico near the area of the original Deepwater Horizon spill.
In a flight over the Gulf Tuesday, OnWingsOfCare.org founder and pilot Dr. Bonny Schumaker spotted an oil slick that stretched for nearly 10 miles.
Last week, two Louisiana State University men took a boat into the Gulf and returned with video evidence of large blooms of crude oil swelling up to the water's surface where the doomed oil rig once hovered.
BP had firmly denied that the well is continuing to leak. ![[Linked Image from img41.imageshack.us]](http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2954/35485753.jpg)
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Well, y'all is the "site" leaking ? We have the technology to examine it in detail ! (Now you could, of course, claim some site 10-20 miles remote is an "effect" !
From all I've read the water depth wasn't the "cause", merely a hindering adjunct - along with a lot of government "experts" with no oil patch, let alone deep water experience ! Along with a lot of gas drillers hit a hell of a pressure pocket. Didn't help one whit the BP decision makers aboard/ashore were probably more "pencil pusher" than driller, either ! All the drill logs I've read reveal there was considerable contretemps between the BP site manager and the professional drillers regarding the import of what they we're seeing in the recovered mud and telementry.
The gulf has experienced these events before and recovered very nicely. Oil seeps/blowouts and SCM blows existed long before the very first off-beach platform was erected. Crude oil - regardless of what watermelons claim - is a natural product comprised of natural compounds/elements. Critters have evolved to eat it. We've found critters that eat stainless steel, let alone the shoddy stuff of the Titanic they lunching on ! >Mech
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Nothing like a disaster to bring out the "professional victims" ! And their "professional advocates", too ! The symptoms of "petroleum poisoning" are well known/documented ! After all we've been playing neck deep in the stuff for over a hundred years ! ( Or
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Nothing like a disaster to bring out the "professional victims" ! And their "professional advocates", too !
The symptoms of "petroleum poisoning" are well known/documented ! Had a few friends that had to leave Kuwait due to it ! But we've been playing neck deep in the stuff for over a hundred years ! ( Or do you subscribe to the theory all those old tintype photos of spindletop and CA booms were "faked" ? )
All I'm convinced of by the excerpted example is I wouldn't hire the lady ! Only two possible avenues of exposure in her position, IMO. Both involve poor personal hygiene and failure to observe standard OSHA and health protocols, IMO ! >Mech
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experienced these events before so next time someone wants to have an oil spill i will direct them to your house and tell them you are ok with it
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