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Christians serve two masters. God and the POTUS. I learned this several years ago when apparently many Christians get mixed and that the POTUS is not a religious leader. They want him to be so they only have to follow one set of laws.

Christians only respect other Christians who wear special icons. Many Christians are looking for ministers who do not judge them so critically that they have to lie about their personal lives. Living double lives will not get anyone into heaven. Searching for the church that allows a believer an honest approach is finally showing some progress. If other Christians turn their backs on them, I hope they can shrug it off and get on with living.

That is the American ideal. It still needs a lot of work.

Classical Hinduism is far more henotheistic than polytheistic. The principal deities of the Hindu pantheon - Brahma (Creator), Vishnu (Preserver), Shiva (Destroyer) - are all considered aspects of the same Divine. IIRC, Buddha, Jesus and YHWH are also included in that rather numerous pantheon.

No. A real follower of Christ can serve only the the one master. Further, on three specific occasions, Jesus indicated that there was a clear and unconfused distinction between the world and the spirit; nowhere did Jesus say anything about his followers seeking or allying themselves with political power.

There are a lot of very confused and not overly-bright people stumbling around on the ground and on the internet making all sorts of claims that are absolutely ridiculous.

A few years ago on another forum, I had one such person insisting that I regarded the President as a religious leader; this same person also insisted that the two of us had carried on a year-long debate on yet another forum, a debate in which I supposedly defended every program that the current administration had proposed. Unfortunately for that person's credibility, not a single iota of proof could be offered - not a single post or quote - and that rather confused soul soon descended into the crudest of ad hominem responses rather than support or withdraw the claim.

A real Christian is not interested in icons or other such outer signs of a supposed spirituality. By their fruits will you know them.

A real Christian understands the nature of his sins and seeks not hide them but to confess them and repent.

I'd say that the people you have met are not really Christians, but those who, as Jesus warned, would come saying Lord! Lord!

I'm showing my age here - but Ron, do you remember the TV game show "What's My Line?"? Three contestants try to stump a panel as to which one is really a . . . whatever . . . and which ones are imposters. Panelists ask each contestant questions to determine who is bona fide and who is not.

Usually the panel would do just as well to choose at random as they did by trying to figure it out.

I am guessing from your posts that you consider yourself to be a real Christian. Well . . . welcome! Many of us here have some serious issues with, umm, the "other contestants", and occasionally you may get stereotyped on that account. Bear with us.

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These people are few and far between.

Agreed.

It is difficult at times to recognize Christians from actors. If you have ever watch the Evangelicals on the television with their clown like clothes and hair cuts and their tears and cries to Jesus to save them. I wonder from what? Bad haircuts? Cheap clothes? Emotions out of control? When these same Christians spout their stuff online it verges on a comedy routine.

I'm told they are harmless! If one is a Christian, they are harmless but step out as an Atheist and add a dash of pro-choice and the stomach has to be firm so as not to vomit with the hysteria.

I read how loving and forgiving Christians claim to be but most of us know that there is a level of destructive hatred very close to the top of the milk that soon sours the messages when those messages get dirty. I would say many Christians carry a wallet full of vindictiveness ready to ooze out when found on these forums. But there are levels of truth and decency in all of us and I am always at the ready when found in the arena with these folks. I let down my guard here last year and you know what happened.

I believe that too, Sandy. Doesn't matter what religion. Or no religion at all. Among Quakers, it's called "that of G*D in everyone".

Sandy - I know what you're talking about and don't entirely disagree. However, there are those who absolutely not what you are describing. As the saying goes, you would know them by their fruit, not their proclamations. The people I am talking about are more than likely not the ones who would go around professing any verbal association, rather they profess their belief based upon their actions. Like I said above, they are few and far between. Rob

It is always hard to see where there are any actions from these people who proclaim to be the only ones who know the truth. Many seem to wait for a chance to strike even other Christians when it seems appropriate. There are so many interpretations of the bible and none of them seem focused on actions except to declare wars against other cults, sects and nations.

2wins, I seriously doubt that any authentic Christians are even trying to speak the words of Jesus on the internet. They seem to think insults and slander is necessary and I believe it is done to show others not even in the argument that they are superior and will always have the last word.

To speak for Jesus should not need actions of destruction. Something very ugly has taken American Christians to a new level of anger and insults. I have blamed this on early training as children to divide up their friends and sadly even their teachers. Discrimination is taught from very early years and it speaks of color, race and God. This has oozed into our elections and I have no idea how to understand why.

Americans are so involved in television that even our ministers have to look like heroes who can win any physical battle for God.